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marcus has had only 1 fight for glory and him and kraus had both fought for WLF before so it is not the same as the last event
Ok little dick, as soon as your sick men of the east fighters knock some Thais out give me a shout... Even small japan fucks up your massive pussy country every time that you fight. You just don't have the fighting spirit like most over countries....Sorry
Is this directed towards us? First, I don't care about Chinese fighters, I only pay attention to Sanda fighters, because I train in it. I do not care about guys like Zhou Zhipeng because he trains in something different entirely. If Salihov Muslim is in the same card as Xu Yan, I will be paying more attention to Salihov all day long.Gotta love the Chinese fans. Anytime a Chinese fighter beats a good Thai they make it out to be the biggest deal ever, but when they lose to a good Thai it's never talked about. The spin doctors on youtube are particularly hilarious.
*waits for Chinese fans to come in and call me a dirty brown monkey*
Is this directed towards us? First, I don't care about Chinese fighters, I only pay attention to Sanda fighters, because I train in it. I do not care about guys like Zhou Zhipeng because he trains in something different entirely. If Salihov Muslim is in the same card as Xu Yan, I will be paying attention to Salihov all day long.
Second, no one made a big deal out of it, the only moron here making idiotic derogatory comments is benj2006 who said that Chinese fighters aren't at the top level and can't compete with the top Thais and we are just giving him a reality check. The top Chinese fighters today definitely CAN compete with the top kickboxers in the world, if this event and the few others in the past does not prove this already then I don't know what will.
Also, if the Chinese fighter is one of the best in China, like if Zhang Kaiyin or Fang Bian lost here, it WILL be talked about, but no one cares about guys like Xu Yan or some unknown guys, and even fighters like Jiang Chunpeng is just second tier, the best Chinese fighter the Thais beat in the Wu Lingfeng in a long time was probably Dong Wengfei and he fought quite competitively against Buakaw.
China has consistently beaten top Thai fighters in almost every exchange bout losing far less than they win.
What Thais have competed in Wu Lingfeng?
Yep, you're certainly a spin doctor.
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This thread is quickly becoming an Asian race war and i like it lets get that racist Chinese guy from youtube xinyiquan666 in here
I assume you haven't read this thread. Saenchai and Buakaw both did along with many others which has already been mentioned.
Its a fact. I'm only talking about unified rules bouts (not kickboxing) and not about the earlier bouts from 2001-2009 (there are 6 official Martial Association sanctioned ones and several marketing ones), where there are large discrepancies towards the rules.
From 2009 there has been several unified rules bouts where the rules are relatively fair, with high level fighters and the Sanda side won every time in total number of victories. The knockouts coming from the Chinese sides have increased significantly and almost rivaled the knockouts that the MT side dished, but the Sanda side still consistently scored higher on the quantity of hits, they simply adapted whereas the MT side did less.
In any case I used it to prove my point when he made an ignorant post. That's all.
Ok, Saenchai is 1 guy and that fight was 4 1/2 years ago. What other "high level" fighters have gone down "every time?" Buakaw won, so that proves that wrong. Also WLF has shown they will lie about who the fighters REALLY are. They promoted Yi Long vs Jomthong Chuwattana, and it wasn't even him! Just look at this video. It is NOT Jomthong Chuwattana but look at the graphic at 1:20! That is a picture of the actual Jomthing Chuwattana.
Why are you limiting this to these "unified rules" bouts to try and prove your point? Anyways, I've seen plenty of good Thais beat Sanda, Wushu or whatever fighters in different rules, but you act like the Chinese crush them every time.
Ok, Saenchai is 1 guy and that fight was 4 1/2 years ago. What other "high level" fighters have gone down "every time?" Buakaw won, so that proves that wrong. Also WLF has shown they will lie about who the fighters REALLY are. They promoted Yi Long vs Jomthong Chuwattana, and it wasn't even him! Just look at this video. It is NOT Jomthong Chuwattana but look at the graphic at 1:20! That is a picture of the actual Jomthing Chuwattana.
Why are you limiting this to these "unified rules" bouts to try and prove your point? Anyways, I've seen plenty of good Thais beat Sanda, Wushu or whatever fighters in different rules, but you act like the Chinese crush them every time.
I was talking about unified bouts, not kickboxing. It was a response to his comment that Chinese fighters will get crushed in Lumpinee stadium, to which I responded that the rules are different, just as Thais will get thrashed in Sanda bouts and I brought up unified bouts where both sides can use their weapons and said that the Sanda fighters still won those every time since 2009.
The Chinese have won the vast majority of their fights against the Thais in unified bouts. It was 4:1 in 2009, 3:2 in 2010, 5:0 in 2012, which is what I meant by "every time".
I am not claiming the Chinese beat the Thais every time in all kinds of bouts, nor did I make the claim that Chinese fighters are better, I was just trying to prove that the Chinese have no problem beating top level Thais when that racist claimed they weren't at that level.
So the Thai's can use elbows and clinch to their hearts desire in these "unified bouts"?I brought up unified bouts where both sides can use their weapons and said that the Sanda fighters still won those every time since 2009.
Ok, Saenchai is 1 guy and that fight was 4 1/2 years ago. What other "high level" fighters have gone down "every time?" Buakaw won, so that proves that wrong. Also WLF has shown they will lie about who the fighters REALLY are. They promoted Yi Long vs Jomthong Chuwattana, and it wasn't even him! Just look at this video. It is NOT Jomthong Chuwattana but look at the graphic at 1:20! That is a picture of the actual Jomthing Chuwattana.
Why are you limiting this to these "unified rules" bouts to try and prove your point? Anyways, I've seen plenty of good Thais beat Sanda, Wushu or whatever fighters in different rules, but you act like the Chinese crush them every time.
So the Thai's can use elbows and clinch to their hearts desire in these "unified bouts"?
I was talking about unified bouts, not kickboxing. I do not consider Wu Lingfeng matches really China vs. Thailand, as it is not really fought in that format even if most fights are pitting Chinese against foreign fighters. It was a response to his comment that Chinese fighters will get crushed in Lumpinee stadium, to which I responded that the rules are different, just as Thais will get thrashed in Sanda bouts and I brought up unified bouts where both sides can use their weapons and said that the Sanda fighters still won those every time since 2009.
The Chinese have won the vast majority of their fights against the Thais in unified bouts. It was 4:1 in 2009, 3:2 in 2010, 5:0 in 2012, which is what I meant by "every time".
I am not claiming the Chinese beat the Thais every time in all kinds of bouts, nor did I make the claim that Chinese fighters are better, I was just trying to prove that the Chinese have no problem beating top level Thais when that racist claimed they weren't at that level.
The unified bouts are those that they used to do like Muay Thai Vs Sanda events, Thailand Vs. China events. basically they will wear elbow pads you can elbow, clinch and all but you can also use Sanda sweeps throws, and the Thais can do hip throws as well.