Is Trump really that bad?

[WTF2008]

This.

And the fact that ts is even asking this question shows he's either not paying attention, wilfully ignorant or trolling.

What are you paying attention to?

I get that you're not used to a real President.

 

[bobgeese]

He's the man.

 

[SexyMahnaz]

Stock market's continuing it's insane bull run, ISIS are on their last legs (in large part thanks to Iranian backed Iraqis & the SAA, but the U.S backed Kurds did their part too). He's kissing Israeli ass but all U.S Presidents do so you can't really blame him for that. His rhetoric is inflammatory but only if you take the bait. There's plenty of time for him to fuck up, but he's doing an OK job so far. It's kinda funny how rabid the anti Trump hysteria is.

 

[21 Savage]

Stock market's continuing it's insane bull run, ISIS are on their last legs (in large part thanks to Iranian backed Iraqis & the SAA, but the U.S backed Kurds did their part too). He's kissing Israeli ass but all U.S Presidents do so you can't really blame him for that. His rhetoric is inflammatory but only if you take the bait. There's plenty of time for him to fuck up, but he's doing an OK job so far. It's kinda funny how rabid the anti Trump hysteria is.

this is peak level war room delusion

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Since Trump became president, and even before then, he was getting heavily criticized by the media. What I want to know is, is he really that bad? Or is the media just not giving him a break?

There's a reason he was a national joke for decades.
He's voicing what a good portion of the country thinks, so he won, by turning himself into a Republican, even trying to wear the mantle of the God believer.

He's a used car salesman, writ large. It's all he ever would have been had he been born into a less wealthy family.

He's not as intelligent as half this forum ffs, and shouldn't be leading Sherdog forums much less the nation.

He's a proven, vivid liar as well, but maybe we should ask John Miller about that

 

[SexyMahnaz]

this is peak level war room delusion

I can keep going-- he cut the CIA's covert funding of 'moderate' rebels in Syria ... hopefully this signals an end to the disastrous attempts @ regime change & nation building by Bush & Obama. Unemployment is heading in the right direction, I think it's at its lowest in nearly 20 years. There's a lot to like if you ignore his tweets & look at what's actually happening. I find them funny though so I'll keep on reading them.

 

[HatchetHarry]

Seems like a symptom of wealth inequality, not tax policy.

Wealth inequality is bullshit. You have people who work harder have more wealth than those who dont

 

[21 Savage]

Stock market's continuing it's insane bull run

Not attributable to Drumpf

ISIS are on their last legs

Not attributable to Drumpf

Unemployment is heading in the right direction, I think it's at its lowest in nearly 20 years.

Not attributable to Drumpf



Meanwhile:

>Not been able to get anyone together to pass any legislation
>Literally trusts Putin over US intelligence agencies
>Making enemies out of literally everyone in office
>One guilty plea, one resignation, two indictments
>Increased drone strikes in Yemen
>Still bombing Syria
>Lost half his cabinet
>Potentially ignited new intifada


This is on top of the fact that you've already admitted to him being a cuck to israel who often uses inflammatory rhetoric. To anyone except delusional Drumpf apologists this looks like a shit year of presidency.

Spoiler

but its just about those tweets amirite? media hysteria haha

 

[smellmyfarts]

The reason they have nukes is because of the US.

I think it's still up for debate as to why they're bending us over without firing a shot.

You really believe they wouldn't have figured out how to build nuclear weapons without the US?

No, the reason they have nukes is because they're intelligent people.

It was actually the French that assisted their early nuclear programs, but Israeli scientists had the knowledge as early as the late 1940's after recruiting Jewish scientists from abroad. while it is believed that they may have possibly stolen weapons grade enriched uranium from the U.S. Navy in the 1960's to construct their first nuclear weapons, they certainly didn't steal the material or technology to construct their thermonuclear arsenal or intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Once again, these are intelligent people. A large portion of their population consists of the same European Ashkenazi Jews that helped introduced nuclear fission to the world in the first place. You ever heard of Einstein, Oppenheimer, Teller.....etc.

 

[Adamant]

Since Trump became president, and even before then, he was getting heavily criticized by the media. What I want to know is, is he really that bad? Or is the media just not giving him a break?

The MSM is garbage. Trump is the best President in decades, by far.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I'll take Trump over Justin Trudeau. Trudeau cannot do anything more than waste tax-payer money, virtue signal and spew platitudes. Nice hair, though.

 

[DangDaGawd]

Trump hasn't done much, but most of what he has done doesn't separate him from Obama, W Bush or Clinton. The only differences are in rhetoric, not actual policy.

 

[C0NCH3TO]

I love how he gets flak for his immigration program yet nobody said jack shit when Obama was deporting illegals left and right.

 

[Deleted member 409801]

I only have one question. If a democrat gets back in office in 4 years, can they tear down this tax reform? Or will it be too late? Because all it's doing is hurting the middle class. I already did the math and all I get is a measly extra 300 dollars on income tax. I would rather want to have universal healthcare.

You were getting universal health care previously?

 

[Deleted member 409801]

A lot of the wealth inequality has to do with technological advancement. Workers.produce WAY more now than 30 years ago but have not been able to share in the benefits of technologies that increase production.

There is a philosophical question to ponder here IMO. Who should benefit from the general advancement of the human race?

Everyone SHOULD benefit , but the cream of the crop will do so disproportionately every single time. 100 years ago or 100 years from now it'll be the same way , you're not going to vote that out of existence like some pie in sky'ers want to believe.

 

[Space]

Please stop with the snowflake shit.

Left leaning people are the same as right leaning people.

You have actual normal human beings on both sides, and then you have crazy motherfuckers on both sides.

It seems like all of the left's crazies end up here though.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real too.

 

[helltoupee]

I'd prefer ours to be permanent also, but that doesn't mean I'm at odds with corporations (or should be). The enemy isn't the one getting extorted for less. Its the one doing the extortion.

Maybe the ones "being extorted for less" are also responsible for the extortion of others?

 

[Greoric]

Maybe the ones "being extorted for less" are also responsible for the extortion of others?

How do you figure? No one else is allowed to extort people except for gov't.

 

[Trotsky]

No no. I'm tracking, and great post. Though it still seems they're both using aggressive force to justify a means to an end. For instance, the alt right wants to remove (presumably forcefully) any person of color out of their own ethno-state... a means to an end.

Yeah, far be it from me to give alt-rightists the benefit of the doubt, but I tend to assume that the vast majority aren't legitimate ethno-nationalists so much as dim-witted reactionaries like we see on this board that focus on surface-level social issues as a matter of identity.

But, to be sure, I'm nothing if not relativistic in terms of the understanding the usage of authoritarian means in political contexts that are graver than the ones we face in 2017 United States. When the alternative is massive expropriation of wealth or dire widespread exploitation and poverty, I'm much more understanding of the usage of temporary authoritarian means, such as in underdeveloped nations of the past like Cuba, Burkina Faso, and pre-Soviet Russia. Even with guys like Robespierre, I understand the context of stakes. The catch, however, is deconstructing or tempering the authoritarian apparatuses when they exceed their scope. For the USSR especially, the bureaucracy failed woefully in doing that once Stalin established the cult of personality and refocused the movement toward socialism in one state and ultimately what was supposed to be a wartime sacrifice became political establishment.

But, like I said, in situation such as what we face right now, I don't think any similar justifications can really stick for either side. Although, I suppose, the right's justifications are at least logically consistent with their position.

 

[Greoric]

Yeah, far be it from me to give alt-rightists the benefit of the doubt, but I tend to assume that the vast majority aren't legitimate ethno-nationalists so much as dim-witted reactionaries like we see on this board that focus on surface-level social issues as a matter of identity.

But, to be sure, I'm nothing if not relativistic in terms of the understanding the usage of authoritarian means in political contexts that are graver than the ones we face in 2017 United States. When the alternative is massive expropriation of wealth or dire widespread exploitation and poverty, I'm much more understanding of the usage of temporary authoritarian means, such as in underdeveloped nations of the past like Cuba, Burkina Faso, and pre-Soviet Russia. Even with guys like Robespierre, I understand the context of stakes. The catch, however, is deconstructing or tempering the authoritarian apparatuses when they exceed their scope. For the USSR especially, the bureaucracy failed woefully in doing that once Stalin established the cult of personality and refocused the movement toward socialism in one state and ultimately what was supposed to be a wartime sacrifice became political establishment.

But, like I said, in situation such as what we face right now, I don't think any similar justifications can really stick for either side. Although, I suppose, the right's justifications are at least logically consistent with their position.

In light of that, would you describe yourself as an an-comm?