It does. But it's actually a down to earth combat system. Well, as far as people have reconstructed it at least. The point is that mysticism doesn't make a style ineffective and lack of mysticism doesn't make a style magically effective. Combat styles are a product of their times and cultures.
tell that to the numerous UFC fighters with advanced ranks in TMAs...in fact I’m pretty sure there’s a whole thread just for karateka in MMA.What the hell is with all these TMA bullshido questions on an mma forum. UFC1 already proved TMA's worthlessness. Hell so did any Gracie in action video.
i wonder if in general, some of the exaggerated movements in various TMAs are meant to "over train" the technique to reinforce it? like if you were working on sprinting 100m, you'd sprint to 120m...if that makes sense. also, Hotora86's thread here may help
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/psa-karate-blocks-are-not-blocks.3816397/
This is a forum for mixed martial arts, not TMA. You are right, many do have advanced belts in TMA, yet, so few of the techniques come out under real pressure. Sure I can find a highlight of Machida doing a number of Karate moves, but that is just one man. One man does not prove anything.tell that to the numerous UFC fighters with advanced ranks in TMAs...in fact I’m pretty sure there’s a whole thread just for karateka in MMA.
What’s with so many meathead bros on this Mixed MARTIAL ARTs forum with no actual martial arts experience?
yet, so few of the techniques come out under real pressure. Sure I can find a highlight of Machida doing a number of Karate moves, but that is just one man. One man does not prove anything.
yes mixed martial arts, meaning martial arts discussion.This is a forum for mixed martial arts, not TMA. You are right, many do have advanced belts in TMA, yet, so few of the techniques come out under real pressure. Sure I can find a highlight of Machida doing a number of Karate moves, but that is just one man. One man does not prove anything.
Probably not even a brawler. Just a Wally.yes mixed martial arts, meaning martial arts discussion.
but you're clearly quite ignorant on the topic of actual martial arts, probably little more than a brawler.
his view on it is likely if it doesn’t look like it does in kata/form it’s not a TMA technique or if it’s shared with other ‘non-TMAs’ it doesn’t count as a TMA techniqueYou obviously don't know what you're looking at if you think Machida is the only one using TMA techniques in MMA.
I obviously said that he was using SOME moves. Not that all of his moves were only from TMA. The point of my post was that almost none of karate comes out in MMA.You obviously don't know what you're looking at if you think Machida is the only one using TMA techniques in MMA.
If it does not bear some resemblance to the original technique, are you even doing that technique and not something else?his view on it is likely if it doesn’t look like it does in kata/form it’s not a TMA technique or if it’s shared with other ‘non-TMAs’ it doesn’t count as a TMA technique
there's a difference between looking exactly like it does in kata/form and bearing some resemblance.If it does not bear some resemblance to the original technique, are you even doing that technique and not something else?
what in the world are you talking about?I had seen that, too. The question is the following. Karate as well as Kung Fu. They are style that were created based on and not experienced with real fights.
Such as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muaythai. That's why his techniques look good in theory but in practice they do not work.
i wonder if in general, some of the exaggerated movements in various TMAs are meant to "over train" the technique to reinforce it? like if you were working on sprinting 100m, you'd sprint to 120m...if that makes sense. also, Hotora86's thread here may help
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/psa-karate-blocks-are-not-blocks.3816397/
What the hell is with all these TMA bullshido questions on an mma forum. UFC1 already proved TMA's worthlessness. Hell so did any Gracie in action video.
where are you getting this idea that karate has no actual roots in combat?Not you and that cheating JUDO came from JIU JITSU. If you doubt it, just read the KODOKA book written by Jigoro Kano himself.
According to KARATE did not evolve from actual combat.
And I talked about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and not Japanese Jiu Jitsu
1. Correct. Look up Motobu Choki, karate's version of a young Miyamoto Musashi (rough and tumble, loves to fight thus bad rep within genteel MA circles0.what in the world are you talking about?
You clearly don’t know anything about martial arts history.
1. Karate was based on real combat experience
2. BJJ was adapted from judo, a watered down sporty variant of traditional jiu jistu which has its roots as far as I’m aware in daito ryu akikijiu jitsu...which I believe also spawned modern aikido...
What’s with people who know nothing of the topic of TMAs trying to talk like they’re experts?
Wrong. Many styles were based on real fights. The problem is with the succeeding generations who didn't fought and yet still taught the style, not knowing the intricacies of fighting. They then had to resort to bullshit explanations to impress potential students. One can find vestiges of fighting in a style's traditional kata (aka those passed unchanged for 3 generations or more).I had seen that, too. The question is the following. Karate as well as Kung Fu. They are style that were created based on and not experienced with real fights.
Such as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muaythai. That's why his techniques look good in theory but in practice they do not work.