For the 500th time, Ive done KB and boxing only sparring for 3 years! Against many pussies who don't want to get hit hard
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These beginner classes are just waste of time. There's a screaming, demented old boxing coach who wants power and stand everybody in line to punch. Then he came to me and just walked past and mumbled... Fucker
Modern boxing coaches want horizontal hooks, I do old school vertical. My authority on the subject is none other than Jack Dempsey. A vertical hook is exactly what I threw and he didn't correct me, unlike the guy next to me. I was quite surprised by that.
He probably knows that you'll spout some bullshit like "yeah you say horizontal but Dempsey says vertical so I'm going to do it vertical." and he figured it wasn't worth it.
You're probably coming off as uncoachable.
Get a private lesson with the coach, work on the basics, try to develop some kind of chemistry or else you won't be invited to the harder classes, you won't be respected by your team mates, and you won't progress.
Boxing is not dogmatic like martial arts. It's only in beginner classes quarells occur. But why anybody would argue against vertical hooks is beyond me. Jack Dempsey is one of the greatest boxers of all time, and his fucking instructional was that of a vertical hook, not horizontal. He fought both in the bareknuckle and glove era.
Honestly, I pray you never take up Muay Thai (and I'm not even religious).
Bud you're a total beginner and already giving friction with your coach.Boxing is not dogmatic like martial arts. It's only in beginner classes quarells occur. But why anybody would argue against vertical hooks is beyond me. Jack Dempsey is one of the greatest boxers of all time, and his fucking instructional was that of a vertical hook, not horizontal. He fought both in the bareknuckle and glove era.
Bud you're a total beginner and already giving friction with your coach.
Don't matter what the GOAT fighters do, at the entry level you have to do things to have a foundation. You're looking into having fancy decor and windows when your base isn't even there
whats a vertical hook?Modern boxing coaches want horizontal hooks, I do old school vertical. My authority on the subject is none other than Jack Dempsey. A vertical hook is exactly what I threw and he didn't correct me, unlike the guy next to me. I was quite surprised by that.
whats a vertical hook?
I guess it depends on the angle. I'm not very good with hooks but it feels stable both ways. I've seen boxers use both and I think they both have their place. For right now I would just listen to your coach tho.Your elbow points downards, like this.https://www.cmgww.com/sports/dempsey/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Jack-Dempsey.jpg It's much more comfortable for my wrists and there's less telegraphing.
I guess it depends on the angle. I'm not very good with hooks but it feels stable both ways. I've seen boxers use both and I think they both have their place. For right now I would just listen to your coach tho.
well, you just started boxing. It takes time to get power with some strikes compared to others even after being shown the proper technique. I didnt just start throwing great front kicks from day one and I'm sure that applies to hooks aswell. Also, just because a strike doesnt feel strong, you really don't know how effective it will be till you use it in sparring. With the right angle and placement a horizontal hook could work for you and would give your sparring partner different looks.I can't for whatever reason throw horizontal hooks with power. Never could.
If hand position is the thing keeping you from generating power, then the technique needs improvement. Like all strikes in boxing, really the arm isn't anything but dead weight. Everything's done from loading and weight transfer.I can't for whatever reason throw horizontal hooks with power. Never could.