Sherdog's Top 10 NBA Players of All Time

[iwhoopedbatman]

Even mark jord still ranks TRUE over bron lmao.

Yeah, but while he's the GOAT player, he's one of the worst talent analysts in the history of NBA front offices.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Yeah, but while he's the GOAT player, he's one of the worst talent analysts in the history of NBA front offices.

He drafted Kwame

LOL

 

[wlu.29]

Jordan also drafted Adam morssion

 

[Breakitdown]

Strawman. No one said it would be the same results, but that they would still be contenders. And most of what you would lose would be filled by other role players. They would be slightly lesser versions of essentially the same team. And it's common knowledge that the threepeat was built around Shaq. Sure, Koby might've been the factor that put them over the top, but it was Shaq's team.

The stats have already been researched. The 3-peat doesn't occur without True due to his evisceration(s) of the Spurs/Kings (the only actual threats during that era).

Snaq was able to stat pad against Rik fkin Smits and Matt Geiger LMAO.

"Strawman" ROFL. You could switch Snaq's fatass for Mutombo and Lakes would 4-peat due to less drama and general fatassery.

 

[Breakitdown]

Lmao @ the people who have Kobe number 1 when he has multiple first round playoff exits and flat out missed the playoffs as well.

LMAO. I didn't know "first round exits" was an actual statistic?

I guess players in the LEast just run away with this "stat" since it's gutter trash and you're essentially facing a WC lotto team in the first round LOL.

"First round exit"... "Finals appearance" (as if getting annihilated in the finals is some sort of accomplishment) ROFL. I've truly lived to see it all.

 

[Revolver]

LMAO. I didn't know "first round exits" was an actual statistic?

I guess players in the LEast just run away with this "stat" since it's gutter trash and you're essentially facing a WC lotto team in the first round LOL.

"First round exit"... "Finals appearance" (as if getting annihilated in the finals is some sort of accomplishment) ROFL. I've truly lived to see it all.

tl/dr lmao

 

[Breakitdown]

"finals appearance" and other similar "Revo Stats" are akin to someone bragging about how many 2nd interviews they are invited to yet never get the job ROFL.

This is the level of nonsense you have to accept when you deny True as the #1 player in history. Fascinating/insane to think about.

 

[gspieler]

The stats have already been researched. The 3-peat doesn't occur without True due to his evisceration(s) of the Spurs/Kings (the only actual threats during that era).

Snaq was able to stat pad against Rik fkin Smits and Matt Geiger LMAO.

"Strawman" ROFL. You could switch Snaq's fatass for Mutombo and Lakes would 4-peat due to less drama and general fatassery.

Funny how those Finals appearances disappeared when Shaq left, and came back the year Gasol showed up.

 

[Revolver]

"finals appearance" and other similar "Revo Stats" are akin to someone bragging about how many 2nd interviews they are invited to yet never get the job ROFL.

This is the level of nonsense you have to accept when you deny True as the #1 player in history. Fascinating/insane to think about.

 

[gspieler]

"finals appearance" and other similar "Revo Stats" are akin to someone bragging about how many 2nd interviews they are invited to yet never get the job ROFL.

This is the level of nonsense you have to accept when you deny True as the #1 player in history. Fascinating/insane to think about.

What stats is he #1 in?

 

[Breakitdown]

Funny how those Finals appearances disappeared when Shaq left, and came back the year Gasol showed up.

"Funny how he never won a ring again... until he won rings again"

Is this really the argument you're latching onto LMAO?

 

[2wop]

The stats have already been researched. The 3-peat doesn't occur without True due to his evisceration(s) of the Spurs/Kings (the only actual threats during that era).

Snaq was able to stat pad against Rik fkin Smits and Matt Geiger LMAO.

"Strawman" ROFL. You could switch Snaq's fatass for Mutombo and Lakes would 4-peat due to less drama and general fatassery.

Kobe would have two rings without Shaw and you know it. Maybe 0 since he wouldn't have gotten the push by David Stern. Hmmmm

 

[Revolver]

What stats is he #1 in?

Rapes

 

[faustian]

 

[Breakitdown]

Lol'ing hard @ faust

From his wiki:

He worked as a WMUC commentator for men's soccer, women's lacrosse...

This guy is representative of the well of "knowledge" that @faustian draws his laughable analyses from:

Yea let's listen to this guy. Let's take this guy's analyses over some of the all time great minds of the sport LMAO.

 

[faustian]

That guy is a renown expert BD

 

[gspieler]

Rapes

I was gonna say chucks/game.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

So kobe was supposed to lead Chris Mihm and Smush Parker to a championship? Of course they got better w/ Gasol, a bonafide all star at that point. Not a whole lot of teams winning titles w/ only one all star, for reference

• The 1980 champion Lakers were represented by Kareem and Magic Johnson.
• The 1981 champion Celtics were represented by Larry Bird, Nate Archibald, and Robert Parish.
• The 1982 champion Lakers were represented by Magic, Kareem, and Norm Nixon.
• The 1983 champion 76ers were represented by Maurice Cheeks, Julius Erving, Moses Malone, and Andrew Toney.
• The 1984 champion Celtics were represented by Bird, Parish, and Kevin McHale.
• The 1985 champion Lakers were represented by Kareem and Magic.
• The 1986 champion Celtics were represented by Bird, McHale, and Parish.
• The 1987-88 champion Lakers were represented by Magic, Kareem, and James Worthy ('87 and '88).
• The 1989-90 champion Detroit Pistons were represented by Isiah Thomas ('89), and Thomas, Dennis Rodman, and Joe Dummars ('90).
• The 1991-93 champion Chicago Bulls were represented by Michael Jordan ('91), and Jordan and Scottie Pippen ('92 and '93).
• The 1994-95 champion Houston Rockets were represented by Hakeem Olajuwon ('94 and '95).
• The 1996-98 champion Bulls were represented by Jordan and Pippen ('96 and '97), and Jordan ('98).
• The 2000-02 champion Lakers were represented by Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant ('00, '01, and '02).
• The 2003 champion San Antonio Spurs were represented by Tim Duncan.
• The 2004 champion Pistons were represented by Ben Wallace.
• The 2005 champion Spurs were represented by Duncan and Manu Ginobili.
• The 2006 champion Miami Heat were represented by Shaq and Dwayne Wade.
• The 2007 champion Spurs were represented by Duncan and Tony Parker.
• The 2008 champion Celtics were represented by Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce.
• The 2009-10 champion Lakers were represented by Bryant and Pau Gasol ('09 and '10)
• The 2011 champion Dallas Mavericks were represented by Dirk Nowitzki.
• The 2012 champion Heat were represented by Wade, LeBron James, and Chris Bosh.
• etc, etc

You got 94/5 Rockets/dream, although he had Clyde the second year who was still a very good player. Pretty good supporting cast too (horry, kenny, elie), but still legit lone all star.
03 Spurs which was legit, old Drob, young parker and gino were nowhere near their primes. Monster TD performance.
04 Ben Wallace, although chauncey/rip/rasheed/tayshaun were all borderline allstar players (kinda like that hawks team a few years back)
11 Dirk had DPOY Chandler, and terry especially was still pretty legit
and then jordan did it twice, but Pippen was an AS clearly the years surrounding it and Rodman led the league in rebounding in the 3peat

 

[gspieler]

So kobe was supposed to lead Chris Mihm and Smush Parker to a championship? Of course they got better w/ Gasol, a bonafide all star at that point. Not a whole lot of teams winning titles w/ only one all star, for reference

• The 1980 champion Lakers were represented by Kareem and Magic Johnson.
• The 1981 champion Celtics were represented by Larry Bird, Nate Archibald, and Robert Parish.
• The 1982 champion Lakers were represented by Magic, Kareem, and Norm Nixon.
• The 1983 champion 76ers were represented by Maurice Cheeks, Julius Erving, Moses Malone, and Andrew Toney.
• The 1984 champion Celtics were represented by Bird, Parish, and Kevin McHale.
• The 1985 champion Lakers were represented by Kareem and Magic.
• The 1986 champion Celtics were represented by Bird, McHale, and Parish.
• The 1987-88 champion Lakers were represented by Magic, Kareem, and James Worthy ('87 and '88).
• The 1989-90 champion Detroit Pistons were represented by Isiah Thomas ('89), and Thomas, Dennis Rodman, and Joe Dummars ('90).
• The 1991-93 champion Chicago Bulls were represented by Michael Jordan ('91), and Jordan and Scottie Pippen ('92 and '93).
• The 1994-95 champion Houston Rockets were represented by Hakeem Olajuwon ('94 and '95).
• The 1996-98 champion Bulls were represented by Jordan and Pippen ('96 and '97), and Jordan ('98).
• The 2000-02 champion Lakers were represented by Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant ('00, '01, and '02).
• The 2003 champion San Antonio Spurs were represented by Tim Duncan.
• The 2004 champion Pistons were represented by Ben Wallace.
• The 2005 champion Spurs were represented by Duncan and Manu Ginobili.
• The 2006 champion Miami Heat were represented by Shaq and Dwayne Wade.
• The 2007 champion Spurs were represented by Duncan and Tony Parker.
• The 2008 champion Celtics were represented by Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce.
• The 2009-10 champion Lakers were represented by Bryant and Pau Gasol ('09 and '10)
• The 2011 champion Dallas Mavericks were represented by Dirk Nowitzki.
• The 2012 champion Heat were represented by Wade, LeBron James, and Chris Bosh.
• etc, etc

You got 94/5 Rockets/dream, although he had Clyde the second year who was still a very good player. Pretty good supporting cast too (horry, kenny, elie), but still legit lone all star.
03 Spurs which was legit, old Drob, young parker and gino were nowhere near their primes. Monster TD performance.
04 Ben Wallace, although chauncey/rip/rasheed/tayshaun were all borderline allstar players (kinda like that hawks team a few years back)
11 Dirk had DPOY Chandler, and terry especially was still pretty legit
and then jordan did it twice, but Pippen was an AS clearly the years surrounding it and Rodman led the league in rebounding in the 3peat

Kobe wasn't the MVP on his team for 3/5. There's no such thing as a GOAT, who's status as the dominant force on his team during the majority of his signature years, is even in question. He was the man on the '09-'10 teams, though.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

Kobe wasn't the MVP on his team for 3/5. There's no such thing as a GOAT, who's status as the dominant force on his team during the majority of his signature years, is even in question. He was the man on the '09-'10 teams, though.

I didnt rank him that high

Just saying thats a weak argument. Jordan needed pippen too, and then benefitted from arguably the greatest rebounder and defender in history in the second 3pt. Magic had kareem norm nixon, and worthy. Bird had DJ, parrish, mchale

Shaq did jack and shit without a dominant wing...and was carried by wade clearly for his 4th ring

Yet hes also in everyones top ten, including mine

Hakeem was an absolute stud in the 80s, but wasnt until he had a better all around supporting cast and jordan and magic retired that he won a chip....

U can nitpick anyones accomplishments is my pt.