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Got robbed against Assuncao, got stopped early against Dodson, coulda been undefeated
Uh love TJ, but he was clearly out for a second against Dodson. That was a flash KO.
Got robbed against Assuncao, got stopped early against Dodson, coulda been undefeated
I can play that game too
Also LOL at showing TJ slipping while Cruz ate a head kick and two punches on the way up in the process in the third gif.
The gif has even been posted. His legs went shaky, but he literally never hit the ground on the first hit. He popped back up on wobbly legs, then got shoved to the ground, not hit, at which point he rolled on his hip while taking hammerfists to grab the leg. But all Herb Dean knows is "HE FELL TO THE GROUND IN A SPORT WHERE PEOPLE SPEND HALF THE FIGHT ON THE GROUND! Better sprint on in!"Uh love TJ, but he was clearly out for a second against Dodson. That was a flash KO.
The gif has even been posted. His legs went shaky, but he literally never hit the ground on the first hit. He popped back up on wobbly legs, then got shoved to the ground, not hit, at which point he rolled on his hip while taking hammerfists to grab the leg. But all Herb Dean knows is "HE FELL TO THE GROUND IN A SPORT WHERE PEOPLE SPEND HALF THE FIGHT ON THE GROUND! Better sprint on in!"
Flash KO insinuates he was ever out. Please tell me the exact moment he goes unconscious.
I hate this place. No threads like this before 217. TJ's been great for years.
Nope, flash KO insinuates he was out "for a flash" or a very brief moment. Maybe I'm wrong about whether he was out, feel free to post the gif.
You seem to be really emotionally invested in that fight. He was beat handily by natural 125'er. TJ has improved greatly since then. I think TJ has moved on and you should too.
"Flash KO insinuates he was ever out" "No, it insinuates that he was out.."
That's.... the same thing. That's why I asked at what point, but I understand how that was complicated if you wanna split hairs.
You seem to be ignoring context (and a hypocrite, considering you came in with the "uh," unless you actually type sounds people make for emotional context that people don't actually write down, unless they're trying to make it sound like someone it clearly wrong and invalidated). Someone brought up controversy of his past matches so I continued that post with more controversies that happened to him. It's called an analysis of the down's of someone's career for what they were at that point in time. At the time, that fight had been spread everywhere and used as an example of a bad stoppage. I'm sure TJ got over it quick and so did I, but time passing doesn't make the stoppage justified. That's why it was brought up.
Anyway, here's the gif, from all the way back on page 2.
He was never out. He was hit on the side of the head behind the ear and lost equilibrium, but never out of it. Similar to GSP vs Serra and vs Condit. In the second instance that GSP lost equilibrium he tied Condit up on the ground until he regained his equilibrium and then went on to arguably win the round. Vs Dodson TJ was went for a single leg and probably would have secured it if Herb did not intervene, he was using his grappling to stay in it. If you want to feel what that sensation is like spin yourself around really fast a few times, you're fully conscious but you'll stand on wobbly legs, your sense of balance is fucked up for a little bit.Nope, flash KO insinuates he was out "for a flash" or a very brief moment. Maybe I'm wrong about whether he was out, feel free to post the gif.
You seem to be really emotionally invested in that fight. He was beat handily by natural 125'er. TJ has improved greatly since then. I think TJ has moved on and you should too.
During the "snake saga". Which I was a part of because I didn't approve of tjs callout of MMreally? i don't know man, i thought he got a lot of love and new fans for beating the brakes off barao.
"Was he ever out?" "No. Never was he ever out." > Grammar's fine, and even if you did assume it to me meaning he was "never out," it still means... he was never out. And that's because... he was never out."Flash KO insinuates he was ever out" doesn't make sense grammatically and I incorrectly assumed that you must have made a typo and wanted to say "never out." You must mean "Flash KO insinuates he was out."
That's a good stoppage. In the history of bad stoppages that isn't even on the list. Did he lose consciousness for a split second? Maybe, maybe not.
that's a TKO and it was an early stoppage, he lost equilibrium not consciousness
TJ wasn't a great striker back then, and it was a shit stoppage to boot.
Dodson hits hard, Tj was very green, everyone loses, and it was a horribly early stoppage.
TJ-Dillashaw/ John Dodson stoppage
terrible
cost TJ the TUF final his other two losses are both splits as well so he was pretty close to still being an undefeated champ.
Besides Dillashaw/Dodson and Faber/Barao name one other "early stoppage" in the past five years.
Nobody doubts Loma is a better boxer. He is one of if not the best boxer in the world. As a specialist and an elite one at that, of course he schools an MMA fighter in one area of their game. However TJ has kicks, clinch fighting, wrestling, submissions etc. Far more diverse game and is high level in each, flows incredibly well between them.This means Lomachenko is the goat. He toyed with TJ in the gym.