When you get the cold or flu are your symptoms harsh or just mild?

Proper flu is misdiagnosed as man flu or a common cold. I've had it 3 times and it wiped me out for a fortnight every time. Anyone saying they had flu for 3 days has just had a bad cold, it isn't influenza.
I can cope with a cold but it sometimes hangs around longer than hoped and sometimes turns into Bronchitis which knocks me out loads too.
Other half, has only once since I've known him had it for longer than a couple of days, it doesn't affect him at all. When he gives it to me, I get it pretty bad. Only way of feeling better is drinking through it which I've done many a time if I have a concert booked.
 
This is interesting in light of how the levels of vitamin D in the body seem to correlate with the severity of coronavirus from very early on. People with low levels of vitamin D seem to suffer more. There are finally some studies being done in the medical community.

Just as the pandemic started, George Mason college released a study on vitamin D levels in people in their athletic programs and finding low levels.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200309110242.htm
Several similar studies have been done in the past at other places which also found low levels of vitamin D.

Cancer studies have been done that warned people to use sunscreen to avoid skin cancer. Since sunlight causes the skin to create vitamin D, sunscreen and less exposure to sunlight might lead to lower vitamin D levels. In the US, vitamin D has been added to milk since the 1930s in the US to reduce bone problems in children. Vitamin D is not added to ice cream or cheese. As people get older, they drink less milk so they get less of the vitamin D which may cause their bones to get brittle. As a population, we spend less time in the sun so we get less vitamin D from sun exposure.

Some medical professionals have advised taking vitamin D supplements since the pandemic started. The levels of vitamin D considered adequate in the past may not be. I have been taking Vitamin D since March.
Used to live within spitting distance of that university.
And I'm on vit D supplements. Only twice a day and a gigantic booster once a day. I really miss sunshine to get it naturally but I tested really badly for it and no big deal taking a few pills.
 
Used to live within spitting distance of that university.
And I'm on vit D supplements. Only twice a day and a gigantic booster once a day. I really miss sunshine to get it naturally but I tested really badly for it and no big deal taking a few pills.
how does a person from Britain currently living in California miss sunshine? :p
 
how does a person from Britain currently living in California miss sunshine? :p
Last summer a real militant Jesus botherer neighbour who kept trying to ram it down my throat when my mother and I were in a bit of a nasty health situation (he didn't know), I stayed indoors pretty much all summer last year because I would have throttled him if he brought up that bullshit. This year, we're only allowed in the pool area an hour a day during the day and I'm at work M-F.

I had a perfect Californian tan a couple of years ago!
 
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This is interesting in light of how the levels of vitamin D in the body seem to correlate with the severity of coronavirus from very early on. People with low levels of vitamin D seem to suffer more. There are finally some studies being done in the medical community.

Just as the pandemic started, George Mason college released a study on vitamin D levels in people in their athletic programs and finding low levels.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200309110242.htm
Several similar studies have been done in the past at other places which also found low levels of vitamin D.

Cancer studies have been done that warned people to use sunscreen to avoid skin cancer. Since sunlight causes the skin to create vitamin D, sunscreen and less exposure to sunlight might lead to lower vitamin D levels. In the US, vitamin D has been added to milk since the 1930s in the US to reduce bone problems in children. Vitamin D is not added to ice cream or cheese. As people get older, they drink less milk so they get less of the vitamin D which may cause their bones to get brittle. As a population, we spend less time in the sun so we get less vitamin D from sun exposure.

Some medical professionals have advised taking vitamin D supplements since the pandemic started. The levels of vitamin D considered adequate in the past may not be. I have been taking Vitamin D since March.
Vitamin D is nothing new, sunlight is also amazing for the mood as well keeps me positive, when I do jump rope in the sun, get a nice sweat and sunlight on my body for a good 20 minutes, i take a shower and feel reborn and my mood enhances to happy and fresh.

Im surprised you only started taking Vit D during the Covid.
 
Last summer a real militant Jesus botherer neighbour who kept trying to ram it down my throat when my mother and I were in a bit of a nasty health situation (he didn't know), I stayed indoors pretty much all summer last year because I would have throttled him if he brought up that bullshit. This year, we're only allowed in the pool area an hour a day during the day and I'm at work M-F.

I had a perfect Californian tan a couple of years ago!
What did the guy do to you?
 
What did the guy do to you?
Only verbal, the more he drank the more he told me about the importance of Jesus being in my life. Again, he didn't know what was going on with my mum and I so I stayed out of his way.
I don't like militant religious stuff as much as I don't like militant ram it down your throat atheist stuff so it wasn't that. Just really at the end of my tether and if he'd started I'd have at least given him verbal homicide for it.
 
I havnt gotten sick in I dont know how long. Never been vaccinated or had any shots. My immune system is has retard strength
 
I get mild chills, a headache and fatigue. My colds/flu have gotten weaker. I take immune boosting vitamins and pills all throughout the year. The duration of my colds range from 2-4 days.
 
Proper flu is misdiagnosed as man flu or a common cold. I've had it 3 times and it wiped me out for a fortnight every time. Anyone saying they had flu for 3 days has just had a bad cold, it isn't influenza.
I can cope with a cold but it sometimes hangs around longer than hoped and sometimes turns into Bronchitis which knocks me out loads too.
Other half, has only once since I've known him had it for longer than a couple of days, it doesn't affect him at all. When he gives it to me, I get it pretty bad. Only way of feeling better is drinking through it which I've done many a time if I have a concert booked.

I think you and I might have weak immune systems :(, ive known people who have had flu legit flu and recover quickly. My brother is one of them, only time I seen him suffer like me is when we both got Swine Flu in 2009 he was out cold and in pain, but he recovered faster than I did.

What I was told with Cold and Flu is with cold the virus is slow progressing so you will start getting that sore throat slowly and then runny nose where you keep ingesting your mucus etc

with Flu its abrupt and sudden, you wake up with the powerful body aches and fever

You can usually tell especially if you have gotten sick often what type you have if its cold or flu.

With cold I always get Bronchitis, with Flu I never get bronchitis.

The main thing is the joint aches and pains, when I get flu I cannot move, my legs are so weak I can't even walk to the restroom with out moving slowly so I don't fall. Ill be in bed tossing and turning in pain and moaning, and I lose my appetite and thirst, when I have a cold I dont want to eat solid foods cause of how sore the back of my throat is, but ill drink warm liquids

when I get flu I have no tolerance for anything, I just want to sleep and my eyes are heavy and I dont want to eat or drink. Ill also get delirium.
 
I get mild chills, a headache and fatigue. My colds/flu have gotten weaker. I take immune boosting vitamins and pills all throughout the year. The duration of my colds range from 2-4 days.
Here is a good read
@fingercuffs

First time flu infection may affect lifetime immunity
Monday 14 November 2016


"A person's chances of falling ill from a new strain of flu are at least partly determined by the first strain they ever encountered, a study suggests," BBC News reports.

Researchers created a data analysis study, based on historic data, which aimed to look at the reasons why past flu epidemics of influenza A – commonly referred to as "bird flu" – have affected different age groups. It seems it comes down to the strains that were circulating when you were born.

Influenza A viruses carry two protein groups on their surface, H and N, which is how they are named, such as H1N1. There are two broad groups of H protein, and being exposed to one can imprint a lifelong immunity, or at least partial immunity, against another strain of the same group.

So for example, someone exposed to H3, a group two virus, when they were born was less likely to be affected by an outbreak of H7, another group two virus. The researchers call this "immune imprinting".

The findings may help in planning for flu outbreaks by estimating which age groups are most likely to be affected depending on what different strains of flu were prevalent when they were born

Where did the story come from?
The study was carried out by researchers from University of California, University of Arizona, and Fogarty International Center in Maryland, US. The individual researchers received various sources of financial support, including from the National Institute of General Medical Sciences of the National Institutes of Health.

The study was published in the peer reviewed journal Science Magazine on an open-access basis so it is free to access online.

The UK's media coverage of the study was accurate.

The lead researcher Dr Michael Worobey, was widely quoted, as he used the metaphor for describing the protein groups as "lollipops": "if you were first infected with a virus from the 'blue lollipop' group as a kid, that won't protect you against this novel, 'orange' strain".

What kind of research was this?
This was a data analysis using information from known human cases of the influenza A viruses H5N1 and H7N9 to investigate the theory that an individual's first encounter with a virus of this group will confer lifelong protection against others of the same group.

Influenza A viruses are all known to infect wild birds, hence are often termed "bird flu". They are characterised by the presence of two proteins on their surface called haemagglutinin (HA) and neuraminidase (NA) and this is how they are named, like H5N1.

There are various subtypes of flu according to HA group and these can be broadly categorised into two groups. For example, H1 and H5 fall within group 1, while H3 and H7 are in group two.

There have been several outbreaks of bird flu over the past 10 years, causing hundreds of severe cases of illness and some fatalities. However, among the human cases there were notable differences in age distribution. The possible reasons for this are not fully understood.

This study aimed to examine whether it could come down to the flu subtype that a person is first exposed to giving later protection against others of the same HA group. To do this the researchers looked at documented human cases of one group 1 virus, H5N1 and one group 2 virus, H7N9.

What did the research involve?
The researchers looked at whether an individual's initial exposure to an influenza A virus confers protection when later exposed to H5 or H7 viruses.

They looked at people born in each year from 1918 to 2015 for six countries – China, Egypt, Cambodia, Indonesia, Thailand, and Vietnam – and looked at the influenza A virus they were likely to have been exposed to in each year.

They also gathered data on the known cases of H5N1 and H7N9 and their age distributions. Most of these documented cases are the severe or fatal ones – the total number of cases is unknown.

What were the basic results?
The researchers made a number of observations.

Looking at the influenza A viruses that people have been exposed to over the years, strain H1N1, a group one virus, dominated between 1918 and 1957. H3N2, a group two virus, has then clearly dominated since 1968, with the notable exception of the peaks of H1N1 – aka "swine flu" – coinciding with the pandemics of 1977 and 2009.

Looking at an outbreak of H7N9 in China during 2012-15, there was a dominance of cases among people born in the first half of the 20th century.

Looking at H5N1 outbreaks in China, Egypt, Indonesia, Thailand, and Vietnam during 1997–2015, most cases occurred among people born from around 1968 onwards.

The researchers found that this was down to "HA imprinting". Across different HA subtypes, those in group one have more similarities than those in group two. Group one HA viruses show 83-98% similarity, compared to 76-82% similarity for influenza viruses in group two.

People born in the first half of the century had been exposed to a group one virus when they were born, so had no protection when later exposed to the group two virus, H7N9. People born in the second half of the century were exposed to a group two virus when they were born, so had no protection when later exposed to a group one virus, H5N1.

HA imprinting from child exposure was estimated to give 75% protection against severe infection and 80% protection against death from either H5N1 or H7N9.

They also estimated that people who become infected despite previous immunity, are probably at lower risk of infecting others because they have lower levels of viral shedding (the amount of viruses that are spread into the environment through actions such as sneezing).

They suggest that there has never been a true "virgin soil" flu pandemic because many people have protection from prior HA infection. That is, thankfully, there has never been a pandemic in which people had absolutely no level of immune protection against infection.

How did the researchers interpret the results?
The researchers conclude that their analysis of human cases of H5N1 and H7N9 shows strong evidence that childhood HA imprinting as a result of exposure gives lifelong protection against severe infection and death from these viruses.

They say "these findings allow us to develop new approaches for [influenza A virus] pandemic risk assessment, preparedness, and response but also raise possible challenges for future vaccination strategies."

Conclusion
This data analysis study shows how the HA group of influenza A – "bird flu" – circulating when a person is born give them lifelong protection against new subtypes within the same HA protein groups. The researchers call this immune imprinting.

This may help to explain the high severity and mortality rate seen among certain groups. For example, the massive flu pandemic of 1918 was an H1N1 strain.

This had a very high fatality rate among young adults, which the researchers consider may have been because when they were born (between 1880 and 1900), H3, a group two virus, was the dominant strain. Therefore they had no protection when encountering the group one virus H1. However, elderly adults of the same generation did have protection when H3 peaked in 1968.

These observations, however, aren't really too unexpected. It's already well known that the flu virus has many different strains; which is why people catch flu several times in their life, and why it's difficult to say the flu vaccine will definitely stop you catching flu (vaccines only cover the strain expected to be circulating that season). We also know that exposure to a specific virus gives us protection against the same if we encounter it again. So in that sense this isn't really "news" as such.

Nevertheless, as the researchers say, their findings could help in planning for future flu outbreaks, in knowing which age groups may be most at risk.

However as researchers acknowledge, analysis of documented cases of human flu typically looks at the more severe or fatal cases. Thousands of milder cases of flu may have missed medical attention.

The study also focused on examining cases in certain African and Asian countries. This may make it difficult to get the full picture of flu immunity.

For the general public there are limited immediate implications from this study. You can't change the year that you were born or the first strain of flu you were infected with.

You can reduce your risk of getting or spreading flu by following established hygiene advice. This includes regular handwashing, using tissues when you cough or sneeze then binning them after use.

The seasonal flu vaccine is available free on the NHS for pregnant women, anyone aged 65 and over, and adults with otherwise weakened immune systems or long-term health conditions.

A nasal spray form of the vaccine is now available; free of charge, for all children aged two to four, as well as older children with long-term health conditions.


https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-and-lungs/first-time-flu-infection-may-affect-lifetime-immunity/
 
hopw much D are you taking every day bro?

I'm taking 5000iu

Same here. It's the most common size. The recommended daily value is 400iu so I was concerned about the risks of taking 12.5 times that. There were studies done with people taking 50,000 iu per week and not exceeding the safe amount in the blood and they are thinking the safe amount in the blood is even higher than previously thought.
 
The funny thing is I've never worked out a day in my life but ppl who do tend to get sick more often than me
 
Vitamin D is nothing new, sunlight is also amazing for the mood as well keeps me positive, when I do jump rope in the sun, get a nice sweat and sunlight on my body for a good 20 minutes, i take a shower and feel reborn and my mood enhances to happy and fresh.

Im surprised you only started taking Vit D during the Covid.

There is a doctor from New Zealand that claims that vitamin D production starts on the exterior layer of skin and showering diminishes it's absorption. Others disagree.

I probably should have been taking it sooner. I had to quit drinking milk in my 40s as I could no longer digest it properly. I did spend a lot of time outdoors before I retired. I've always taken a multivitamin but that only had 400 iu of vitamin D.
 
I can only remember getting something resembling the flu twice in my life and they weren't that bad so I would guess the symptoms are mild but I get a stuffy nose pretty often.
 
I've never been tested to see if I have a cold, a flu or maybe allergies when I was sick. I haven't had any type of sickness aside from an occasional headache or attack of vertigo since I retired 5 years ago.

In my earlier years there was always the chance of a sickness being a bottle or can flu. Not being in close proximity with very many people very often certainly limits my exposure to diseases.
 
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