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A question: can Urabe's competition be analogues of Petmorakot, Saeksan, Singthongnoi, Yodlekpet, Muangthai, and Rotlek?
Put them all in a ring together and find out.A question: can Urabe's competition be analogues of Petmorakot, Saeksan, Singthongnoi, Yodlekpet, Muangthai, and Rotlek?
Not trying to take sides here, but to clarify the situation Karaev's "fraud" post was an ad extremum play on the idea of discrediting a fighter based on one win in an unfamiliar ruleset, rather than him actually thinking Umeno is a fraud. I can see how that could be hard to discern though as we are talking in text which is not the best for conveying sarcasm.
Umeno is a choke artist. I have no confidence in his ability to pull off a win outside of Japan. Heck he's lost all his fights in Thailand since 2010 or something.
is this pure marketing or will Takeru be using excessive, unnecessary movement, sloppy kicks and the "switch cross" in his next K-1 bout?
is this pure marketing or will Takeru be using excessive, unnecessary movement, sloppy kicks and the "switch cross" in his next K-1 bout?
Now it has all of the content and information as before, but without the trolling and that alone has made a big impact on arguments here. Everyone seems to get along and that was the goal.
Takeru's stand up isn't good. He gets by on his chin and his power and the fact that he fights in division which doesn't even exist.
Say what you want Ludwig or Dillashaw, but don't act like they're going to ruin a guy who isn't even that impressive to begin with.
Kickboxing hipsters love to take stabs at the standup of mma fighters, but maybe they should look at their own sport, seeing as how the only thing kickboxers do is 'standup'. And yet they still manage to consistently be less competent at that than guys who have to juggle several other major skill sets.
that's very interesting but unfortunately you're reading way too much into my comment. I was just questioning what can a profesional kickboxer learn that'll be useful to him by training in the most mma-specific style of striking there is?
MMA fighters beat up kickboxers all the time with their "mma specific style".
I think Dillashaw strikes better than the majority of MMA fighters.Do you think all mma fighters move and strike like TJ Dillashaw?
And yet they still manage to consistently be less competent at that than guys who have to juggle several other major skill sets.
How?I've always been of the opinion that some mma fighters could do very well in kickboxing but i think you're exaggerating with this comment.
Edit: You always can't entirely write off Takeru because he relies on his chin when there are top thais like muangthai, seksan, suakim etc. that do the same thing.
How?
Every couple of years a decent MMA fighter comes into kickboxing and becomes one of the best fighters in the division. And this represents only the very smallest part of the MMA talent pool. What do you think kickboxings divisions would look like if there was a mass exodus of the best MMA talent into kickboxing.
Daley and Jacoby. If you're being generous, then Thiago Silva will probably challenge for a title if he sticks with it. These are just recent guys, if you go back to the k1 days then there are quite a few more.What examples are there of this? Overeem and Mousasi? Adamchuk did a bit of mma before kickboxing but I'm pretty sure that was before he moved to Mikes Gym.
Daley and Jacoby. If you're being generous, then Thiago Silva will probably challenge for a title if he sticks with it. These are just recent guys, if you go back to the k1 days then there are quite a few more.
Schilt and Mighty Mo were both MMA fighters before they kickboxed. But the vast majority of MMA fighters don't kickbox and when they do they don't usually stick around for long, regardless of whether they have success or not. Daley was undefeated for example, but MMA pays way better.Jacoby has a 10-8 record in one of the thinnest kickboxing divisions. Daley beat Stetsurenko who's mostly a journeyman and aside from that has fought unknowns. In terms of consistent success against top quality competition the only mma fighter (from my memory anyway) that sticks out is Overeem.