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Canelo is a PED cheat. That is a fact. Nuthuggers can cry and try to believe silly cow stories.
He’s claiming tainted meat. How the hell is that any different than Jones claiming tainted dick pills?? Give me a break.
Why? Because of tainted meat?shouldnt have been banned at all
and almost certainly wouldnt have been under usada
Nobody is buying the tainted meat bullshit excuse. A lot of Mexicans fighters are using this as an excuse. GGG himself called him out for that bullshit.
Nobody is buying the tainted meat bullshit excuse. A lot of Mexicans fighters are using this as an excuse. GGG himself called him out for that bullshit.
I've heard of the contaminated meat story. I've heard this all before. I'm sorry to break it to you, but 'contaminated meat' is not a valid excuse. In fact, it's total bullshit. If Mexico has a problem with it and we know this, its even less valid.
Again, I truly feel sorry for anybody who buys any of this stuff.
Is it more likely that all these world class athletes are being contaminated due to eating tainted meat? Or that they're on PEDs? You decide for yourselfI don't give a shit what GGG and his trainer say. He's not a fucking doctor or a scientist the last time that I checked.
There was a link to a news story in that post showing that WADA exonerated the Mexican soccer team after they popped and validated the tainted meat story.
Again. This is why I don't support testing anymore. People just believe whatever the fuck they want to. Obviously, doping is widespread, but the testing system is flawed as fuck.
False positives are a reality. Athletes test positive for all sorts of benign shit that has nothing to do with doping. There was case where a gymnast tested positive for drinking tap water.
https://www.usada.org/kristen-shaldybin-accepts-finding-of-no-fault-for-anti-doping-rule-violation/
Is it more likely that all these world class athletes are being contaminated due to eating tainted meat? Or that they're on PEDs? You decide for yourself
Is it more likely that all these world class athletes are being contaminated due to eating tainted meat? Or that they're on PEDs? You decide for yourself
There are hundreds of examples of athletes testing positive for clenbuterol (or very similar substances) when they were tested immediately after ingesting meat in Mexico, China, or other countries which don't have strict regulations for what cattle can ingest. Many or even most could have been doping intentionally or been using other substances, but if their positive can be shown to be caused by tainted meat beyond a reasonable doubt, then the WADA precedent has tended to be either considerable clemency or outright exoneration.
I'd rather see Gennady fight Billy Joe Saunders anyway, although it won't sell much in North America, I'm sure it would be huge in Europe and the UK.
The tests seem to be working. It's what happens afterward that is flawed.Right. You know better that the international anti-doping agency that's responsible for administering drug testing in most major sports around the world.
I've to ask you: if you don't believe the results of their investigation that exonerated the soccer players, then why do you take the results of the tests seriously at all?
i guess we have different definitions of reasonable doubt. The other case that comes to mind is Yoel Romero. He didn't prove anything, he didn't give us any reasonable doubt. But USADA let him off anyway without proof of anything, not even any proof Yoel used the supplement that was supposedly tainted. They saw that a supplement existed that contained the same substance he tested positive for. All Yoel had to do was claim he was using the supplement and they let him off.There are hundreds of examples of athletes testing positive for clenbuterol (or very similar substances) when they were tested immediately after ingesting meat in Mexico, China, or other countries which don't have strict regulations for what cattle can ingest. Many or even most could have been doping intentionally or been using other substances, but if their positive can be shown to be caused by tainted meat beyond a reasonable doubt, then the WADA precedent has tended to be either considerable clemency or outright exoneration.
The tests seem to be working. It's what happens afterward that is flawed.
Again, the onus is on the athlete. That's the end of the discussion. If Mexico is known to have this problem, then the excuse becomes even less valid.
As it stands, any athlete can take a trip to Mexico, test positive and be let off the hook by you and WADA, it seems.
The tests seem to be working. It's what happens afterward that is flawed.
Again, the onus is on the athlete. That's the end of the discussion. If Mexico is known to have this problem, then the excuse becomes even less valid.
As it stands, any athlete can take a trip to Mexico, test positive and be let off the hook by you and WADA, it seems.
i guess we have different definitions of reasonable doubt. The other case that comes to mind is Yoel Romero. He didn't prove anything, he didn't give us any reasonable doubt. But USADA let him off anyway without proof of anything, not even any proof Yoel used the supplement that was supposedly tainted. They saw that a supplement existed that contained the same substance he tested positive for. All Yoel had to do was claim he was using the supplement and they let him off.
And if I'm wrong on that please let me know and I will eat the crow.
But what is more likely...?
I'm not saying false positives don't exist, not at all. If one athlete got caught one time and they proved similar amounts were in the meat, then I can see being lenient. But a known issue? Elite, world class athletes? Once it happens one time, your excuse goes out the window. The onus is on the athlete at this point.So you're saying that there's no such thing as a false positive despite the fact that the actual doctors and scientists who work for anti-doping agencies recognize their existence and specifically have an appeals and exoneration policy to deal with false positives?
You obviously haven't read his case
USADA doesn't really have power of what decision the commissions make. They just report their findings. In some cases, the commissions and USADA actually differ in the way their rules are written.The tests seem to be working. It's what happens afterward that is flawed.
Again, the onus is on the athlete. That's the end of the discussion. If Mexico is known to have this problem, then the excuse becomes even less valid.
As it stands, any athlete can take a trip to Mexico, test positive and be let off the hook by you and WADA, it seems.
i guess we have different definitions of reasonable doubt. The other case that comes to mind is Yoel Romero. He didn't prove anything, he didn't give us any reasonable doubt. But USADA let him off anyway without proof of anything, not even any proof Yoel used the supplement that was supposedly tainted. They saw that a supplement existed that contained the same substance he tested positive for. All Yoel had to do was claim he was using the supplement and they let him off.
And if I'm wrong on that please let me know and I will eat the crow.
But what is more likely...?
Why? Because of tainted meat?
So you can take a trip to Mexico and be exonerated of any clenbuterol positives that pop up in your piss?
USADA let Yoel off, they're fallible