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I like BJS, hoping he beats Andrade and Golovkin/Canelo.
As an American who has no concept of this dynamic, whenever gypsies/travelers are brought up by ppl who actually know, I find it fascinating.
Are gypsies all related? Is there a comparison to be made to certain Americans that I can kind of understand or is this whole thing very unique to the UK and parts of Europe? I get the feeling they would be known as kind of like "trailer trash" here in the States. Btw no judgement from me either way, I'm just very interested in this subject since it's so foreign to me.
I like BJS, hoping he beats Andrade and Golovkin/Canelo.
Thanks Jonny.They are generally related. And there’s a bit of a fear factor from non travellers because they stick together, which to some extent is understandable. A kind of fck with one of us, fck with all of us. A family unity that doesn’t really exist in the general population anymore.
I had a situation where my daughters friend stole from her when her and a friend were at my house. She’s part of the most notorious family in my area, a huge fckin family who are travellers, but have settled and live like the rest of us. School didn’t deal with it because, rightly or wrongly, they were scared to. I’ve known quite a few of the family over the years and know the parents through boxing. But I couldn’t really take it up with them as there was a possibility that I’d have people turning up at my door looking for trouble. I couldn’t take that risk so had to leave it
Unfortunately many people don’t like them because they live an alternate life style and they tar them all with the same brush, even if they’ve had no bad experiences themselves. And whilst ignoring the fact that there are good and bad in all communities. There’s definately a level of ignorance, intolerance and double standards shown to travellers
It's all about the boxing, I'm not going to feign outrage over some high jinx.I think you’re on your own there dude. I did enjoy his performance against lemi but I just can’t support the guy. And I generally do favour home fighters
Where about in the UK are you?
I have no problem meeting travellers, im sure like every race, there are plenty of good and bad, but it seems that the good keep themselves to themselves rather than being proud and making people change their minds.
When you have 2 high profile travellers, spouting the type of nasty shit that Fury and Saunders do, its hard to change your mind without them integrating into society(which they do not do at all) and changing peoples minds, so we know these are just cunts.
Double standards pal. You’re calling people who receive benefits scrounging cunts, yet giving travellers a pass for paying taxes that we all have a responsibility to pay? Can’t have it both ways
My mate Keith and his brother are lovely fellas. Give up their spare time getting young kids off the street and teaching them to box. And I’ve had quite a few friends over the years that are travellers, through boxing.
I also seen the other side whilst working the doors, acting the cunt and then bringing down half the family down to beat the bouncers up. Or flying drones over the local houses to see what is easy to rob. This is not exclusive to travellers, but it’s more common than it should be
Travellers are prejudiced against, there is no doubt about that. And their criminal element is treated differently by the general population. But from my experience this is not a one way street. Travellers have the same ignorance and prejudices towards non travellers as the other way round in general.
I get where you're coming from but basically it boils down to being called a name whilst others are actually getting mugged or battered and having their dogs knicked and their caravan stolen.No, that's not double standards, I didn't imply everyone on benefits and I didn't say I agreed, more that I understood why someone would not agree with paying taxes, or at least all of the taxes...
Spend a week with me mate, you'll see why too.
Is rapidly becoming my biggest hate, is how so many exploit our social structure so easily, readily and successfully.
I see many crimes by many people, none really exclusive to one another but they are always shunned and all terms or opinions on them are acceptable for some reason...
A travellers funeral goes by, someone says its a pikey funeral, no one bat's an eyelid (actually happened in my shop whilst it was full)
Try that same shit with the N word when it's a black fellas funeral and watch the reaction.
- then ask yourself, why would that community want anything to do with the society around them or have any respect for the large majority that look so readily down their noses at them?
I get where you're coming from but basically it boils down to being called a name whilst others are actually getting mugged or battered and having their dogs knicked and their caravan stolen.
Seems slightly unbalanced. That's why I get so pissed about it.
Look nah I do get you. But you must also undertand that this has been my world view. And it's really irritating.Apart from yourself who stopped talking nonsense and came with a genuine conversation - this thread highlighted my points perfectly.
As an American who has no concept of this dynamic, whenever gypsies/travelers are brought up by ppl who actually know, I find it fascinating.
Are gypsies all related? Is there a comparison to be made to certain Americans that I can kind of understand or is this whole thing very unique to the UK and parts of Europe? I get the feeling they would be known as kind of like "trailer trash" here in the States. Btw no judgement from me either way, I'm just very interested in this subject since it's so foreign to me.
What a horrible thing to do to someone. Shouldn't be awarded with a big fight at all even though I want to see him get KTFO.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7305...posing-as-policeman-forces-man-to-strip-down/
He could go to jail for this...
I thought he was a piece of shit already but this just adds to it.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7305...posing-as-policeman-forces-man-to-strip-down/
He could go to jail for this...
Yep, you can't impersonate a police officer. Here in the US it's a felony in many states and a misdemeanor (1st degree IIRC) in others. It ranges from jail time to prison time. Apparently this footage is believed to be more than a couple years old and it resurfaced? I don't remember it surfacing at all.https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7305...posing-as-policeman-forces-man-to-strip-down/
He could go to jail for this...
Saunders has been charged with misconduct by the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBOC) after the clip circulated.
It is not known whether the BBBOC is investigating the latest clip but it could have an impact on his hearing next week.
The Sun Online has contacted the BBBOC and Frank Warren promotions for comment.
Fury and BJS are both from traveller families but different origins.
Fury is from Irish travellers while BJS is from Romani gypsies, which came from Romania with origins from India. The Romani are the ones found in Eastern Europe where there is quite the racism towards them.
The Irish ones are, from my experience, more the ones called Pikeys. They may be different, but have similar culture and traits and due to the prejudice against them, side with each other.
Fury and BJS have their common connection of being travellers and even joined in the idea of a gypsy belt several years back.