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I hate that I have to defend Trump or Kanye West due to facts over brushed aside racism. This is retarded.
A guy I work with feeds on CNN, MSM and Noah what's his name. He is just seething with hate for Trump, Republicans and Conservatives. He's about 30, pretty big guy. He doesn't want to have kids because of global warming and how awful things are.
I didn't personally see it as problematic but I can see how "token negro" would bother a broad section of viewers.What's the problem with "token negro" in that context?
I believe the comment was "Kanye is the token negro of the Trump administration" which would just mean he's the only black person in the Trump administration simply there because the Trump administration doesn't have any blacks within it and needed one to fulfill their quota.
An obvious joke considering, well Kanye isn't in the Trump administration--yet.
Context is important. Are we going to pretend that people calling him a token negro, weren't using it as a racial insult? If he was a country singer, or Ted Nugent, they wouldn't have used that term.I mean we're talking about a rapper who has frequently made reference to common black issues via the vernacular and I'm supposed to believe that when other black people who probably listened to his music and share that culture and that vernacular refer to him in line with the very culture that Kanye is a part of...that's racist?
I don't buy it. It's a culturally internal dialogue playing out in front of the mainstream and the lack of familiarity leads the mainstream to label is as something it's not.
Not into interracial gay porn, really could have done without seeing two old men going in for a kiss
No, I was talking about "that's what happens when negros don't read".Yes, but the term token negro was used. You were some how arguing over the semantics of the term "negro", without utilizing any of the actual context in the scenario. It's like you were trying your damnedest not to admit that what was said, was racist as hell.
See my other post for why you're pretty much on the wrong train regarding what I'm talking about.Context is important. Are we going to pretend that people calling him a token negro, weren't using it as a racial insult? If he was a country singer, or Ted Nugent, they wouldn't have used that term.
So you switched the conversation.No, I was talking about "that's what happens when negros don't read".
This was the first thing I thought of when I saw this. He has a white boyfriend or husband or whatever.lol-well, he's married to a white guy, so house negroes like him know his place
Don't be stupid. My original comment was:So you switched the conversation.
Either way, they all sound pretty bad. Not sure why you put so much effort into playing defense.
Notice that it's about the reading commnet?..."This is what happens when X doesn't read" isn't particularly vitriolic in the current tv environment.
Notice that it's about the reading commnet?
Don Lemon didnt say anything
No, I've been very clear that there are 2 comments, said by 2 different people, deserving of 2 different treatments.Yeah, we noticed. We also noticed that you're purposefully excluding the controversial part of the statement, and treating it as some non-racial comment about a nondescript person being ignorant. In other words, you're downplaying it.
No Pan, "This is what happens when a NEGRO doesn't read" is most certainly a particularly vitriolic comment in today's TV environment.
No, I've been very clear that there are 2 comments, said by 2 different people, deserving of 2 different treatments.
Yes, I'm downplaying it. I've never claimed otherwise. I think you and others are overplaying it. It's not vitriolic just because you're unfamiliar with the numerous slang usages of "negro" in the black community.
Which is the point I keep making and you don't address. If it's common vernacular in the community from which Kanye originates and the speakers arise from the self-same community - what's the problem? You keep telling me that simply because of the word "negro", we should be concerned but that simply fails to address my question: If it's common, non-racist, vernacular in the community from which Kanye originates and the speakers arise from that self-same community - what's the problem?
I'm perfectly aware of the context. And you are overplaying it within that context.I've addressed your question. You're simply ignoring the context in which the word was used, to make it seem harmless. You're laughably trying to state that since in some instances its used in a non-racist vernacular within the community, that it somehow negates it's racist intent here.
Stop being dishonest.
@HereticBD are you saying that the black commentator was using the word "negro" as an insult?