Arizona Rep. Trent Franks to resign - asked two ex-staffers to be surrogates to carry his child... | Page 2

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  1. Trotsky Yellow Card

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    Have you seen the Rack em Willie videos?

    "Lemme use that womb for a while. I heard about that big ol' womb you got!"
     
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  2. SidJustice Master of the world and the universe

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    Also, as a dude from AZ.

    Good, fuck im.
     
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  3. HockeyBjj Putting on the foil

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    Welp, that's creepy as fuck

    Compared to the average politician, I guess I have to say at least he asked though
     
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  4. SBJJ Black Belt

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  5. SBJJ Black Belt

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    You're right. If there is not more to this. It's complete crap, I'm sorry.

    I wouldn't hire females if shit like this is considered harassment
     
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  6. SBJJ Black Belt

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    Which male representatives do you think are hot?
     
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  7. SidJustice Master of the world and the universe

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    So from a non sexual standpoint. You are ok with a boss asking his assistants to carry his child? That could easily fall under quid pro quo.
     
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  8. Fawlty cussed 'em belt

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    Heard he was only going to pay them time-and-a-half after the first trimester, but they insisted that overtime begins at conception.
     
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  9. second sight Reversing Submissions from Father Time

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    birth defects, theres a easy target
     
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  10. Madmick Stop Spoiling My TV Life (it's the one I like)

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    Typically you do make these overtures as a couple, but...yeah, interesting that he isn't interested in fighting it.
    Franken resigning was a travesty for male rights: a travesty.
     
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  11. jefferz Gold Belt

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    To be fair, he might not have looked so bad before he got hit with a shovel. Is there any before pics?
     
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  12. IGIT Black Belt

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    hi Madmick,

    i don't know. there has to be a high degree of humiliation for both one's family and one's self to defend anything like this.

    there's always a cost/benefit angle, and maybe he decided it just wasn't worth it.

    - IGIT
     
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  13. hillelslovak87 Red Belt

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    Now this is pod racing!!!
    That seems exactly like a pickup line the "values voters" crowd would use.
     
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  14. deltapapha Brown Belt

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    na see, when I look at this man I see a Robert Mitchum in his prime.
     
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  15. IGIT Black Belt

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    hello SBJJ,

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/07/trent-franks-expected-to-resign-286967

    i don't know this congressperson's policy positions, but its really unlikely mine dovetail with his - and were he voted out of office i'm sure i wouldnt lose a wink sleep over his defeat...

    ...but this really is getting ridiculous, if there isn't alot more to this story.

    its starting to irritate me, actually.

    i feel that the #metoo movement is going to follow the same trajectory as BLM, in terms of how i see the phenomenon.

    i was for it, before i was against it.

    - IGIT
     
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  16. IGIT Black Belt

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    hi SidJustice,

    its definitely odd territory, but reading the congressperson's statement...he really does seem forlorn and chastised, and suffered a number of defeats (miscarriage) and adoptions that fell through (adoptions are an onerous process) in effort to grow his family.

    and if these are the only facts of this particular situation, i'm unclear why there's this compulsion to rake this fellow over hot coals.

    i mean, do you equate his behavior with others who have recently fallen?

    - IGIT
     
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  17. KONG-D'SNT-TAP Steel Belt

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    Lol at all these Jesus loving assholes acting like fools

    The Republican Party is the worst. These people stand on their platform and judge everyone and make like they are doing gods word.
     
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  18. PolishHeadlock Putin Belt

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    You would actually ask a female coworker....

    Sorry, you would ask a subordinate (while being a congressman) to be a surrogate? And if 1 quit after you asked you'd ask another 1?

    You're a normal person.
     
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  19. PolishHeadlock Putin Belt

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  20. IGIT Black Belt

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    hiya PolishHeadlock,

    i've never been this kind of position, so i'm trying to empathize, so let me get your point of view on this;

    you work all day, and when you're not working, you're fundraising...and when you're not fundraising, hopefully you get to visit your family a few hours a week.

    you and your wife want to grow your family (i don't have any kids, the idea of having any is radioactive to me, but as i understand it, i am an outlier), and you take the idea of surrogacy really seriously.

    you know two bright young women whom you respect (otherwise, why would the congressperson have them on this staff?) and you take them into your trust.

    you are desperate to have children (again, i do not understand this compulsion, but i recognize that most people seem to share it), so you ask two people you trust and respect to be your surrogate.

    i get that this is an odd situation, and the request seems (at least to me) to be a bit unusual.

    but is this really the same as the POTUS groping women or Harvey Weinstein ejaculating on the leg of an actress?

    i am not trying to be snarky, i think you're a solid poster.

    just wanted your take on things.

    - IGIT

    ps - i used to live in center city, on walnut st. i miss philly. excellent place.
     
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