Democrats No Longer Pretending To Support Borders

Pessimystic said:
It was actually W, but the point still stands.
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No it doesn't.

W was a Republican you fucking dork. And despite Congress giving W the ability to do so, he decline to ever enforce the policy.

Trump and his admin decided to enforce the policy.
 
I would use this as a platform and run with it in November if I was a Republican. Back the Dems into a corner by showing them poll statistics showing how 69 percent of most Americans are against sanctuary cities et al. And going, "So your saying a majority of Americans are stupid?." Keep hitting em over the head with it.

I can't remember the exact poll numbers on it and we all know they are flimsy at best but it would definitely make them stumble during a debate. Or put up a TV ad saying, "This guy thinks your stupid for wanting to respect our Laws."
 
Ranzou** said:
I would use this as a platform and run with it in November if I was a Republican. Back the Dems into a corner by showing them poll statistics showing how 69 percent of most Americans are against sanctuary cities et al. And going, "So your saying a majority of Americans are stupid?." Keep hitting em over the head with it.

I can't remember the exact poll numbers on it and we all know they are flimsy at best but it would definitely make them stumble during a debate. Or put up a TV ad saying, "This guy thinks your stupid for wanting to respect our Laws."
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It's not the states or cities' responsibility to enforce federal laws unless the federal government specifically pays them to do so.
 
It was in the CHC's interest to squash it. Progressives may be working overtime to try and motivate their base to keep the outrage brewing till November but they also run the chance of motivating conservatives to come out as well as the crazy ass socialist, globalist, communist, etc rhetoric runs out of control by all the lefty talking heads and celebrity sockpuppets. Cause if they truly feel threatened with a NGO boatload of homegrown insanity stripping the boarder then the very well just might.
 
Rational Poster said:
So you don't care about the debt or deficit, right?
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We do. Aside from DOD budget the reason we have such a huge deficit is all these socialist welfare programs. Drop all this assistance shit. Boom deficit halved.

Honestly the deficit is managable. If China tried to collect we could step up tariffs. I agree it needs to be tackled and I think a new overhaul in the fiscal budget is needed. Trump is first and foremost a businessman. If he felt it was an issue he could fix alone I'm sure he would have campaigned on it. I mean...what is YOUR solution then?
 
Ranzou** said:
We do. Aside from DOD budget the reason we have such a huge deficit is all these socialist welfare programs. Drop all this assistance shit. Boom deficit halved.

Honestly the deficit is managable. If China tried to collect we could step up tariffs. I agree it needs to be tackled and I think a new overhaul in the fiscal budget is needed. Trump is first and foremost a businessman. If he felt it was an issue he could fix alone I'm sure he would have campaigned on it. I mean...what is YOUR solution then?
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How about we try not cutting taxes and increasing spending as soon as Republicans are in control for a change?

Obama gave Trump a lower deficit than Obama started with. Why increase it when the economy is doing so well? Now would have been the time to tackle it instead Republicans with total control of government do the opposite.


We could keep all our social programs intact and keep expanding the military if we just tried not cutting taxes and increasing spending for a change.
 
Rational Poster said:
So you don't care about the debt or deficit, right?
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Obstruction by both parties has led to our country being run on continuing resolutions, and unfortunately, not addressing our debt.


Blaming Trump is bottom tier political analysis.
 
Smok3r said:
Nah, this is BIG. I’m assuming it’s bad news for you and your ideals, and you probably hope this would get lost in a sea of posts elsewhere.
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I am actually a conservative but I also don't think a new thread needs to be made just to make sure everyone see's my point.
 
Rational Poster said:
How about we try not cutting taxes and increasing spending as soon as Republicans are in control for a change?

Obama gave Trump a lower deficit than Obama started with. Why increase it when the economy is doing so well? Now would have been the time to tackle it instead Republicans with total control of government do the opposite.


We could keep all our social programs intact and keep expanding the military if we just tried not cutting taxes and increasing spending for a change.
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Isn't every new president having to deal with an initial deficit increase as they enact new policies and such though?

I haven't checked the statistics on that. Anyone?
 
bobgeese said:
Obstruction by both parties has led to our country being run on continuing resolutions, and unfortunately, not addressing our debt.


Blaming Trump is bottom tier political analysis.
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Republicans control the ENTIRE GOVERNMENT APPARATUS.

There is no obstruction. This is Republican policy in full effect with no road blocks.
 
Ranzou** said:
Isn't every new president having to deal with an initial deficit increase as they enact new policies and such though?

I haven't checked the statistics on that. Anyone?
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Bill Clinton started with a deficit and ended with a surplus.

Bush Jr started with a surplus and ended with the largest deficit of all time.

Obama started with the largest deficit of all time and lowered it by more than half.

Trump started with a $660M/yr deficit and it's projected to be near 1T/yr by the end of his first term because of the tax cuts.
 
Kitafuji said:
I am actually a conservative but I also don't think a new thread needs to be made just to make sure everyone see's my point.
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Well, I disagree with you.
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