Is Goku Beatable?

j123 said:
Goku has Aryan master race capabilities

Lol, this post made me rethink Freiza

Tyrannical wealthy white guy who own slaves of all species and races on his planatary plantation. Lol.
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Saiyan master race not aryian lol
 
Hidden_Hand said:
Yeah Goku could win if he was savvy and clever in he fight for sure.

Supes struggled with Batman because of that so Goku could definately get the job done.

This is also very possible.

Buuuuut you are forgetting one major thing, Saiyans can't breathe in space, so unless these planets have magical oxygen int he atmosphere he would be fucked.

Goku would have to play his cards very safe.
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I think goku can breathe in space, he fought beerus in space (could be wrong). ill link the video gimme a second homie. Could be just the atmosphere area, who knows.

 
90 50 said:
A god of destruction has no problem destroying universes, it’s what they do. Given that he is the most powerful non angel/god being in the universe, if they are in the same universe he has to by default be more powerful than thanos that’s just a given

What makes you think flash is faster than goku? They move so fast even other Dbz fighters can’t see them

When flash moves even run of the hill humans see him , although it’s just a flash, they still see him.
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The only character to my knowledge who can and has destroyed universes is Zeno?

Beerus has no feats of any such power, his actual best feat is beating a SSJ3 Goku which Super Buu could have done.

If we say Thanos is by default weaker than Beerus in the Dragon Ball universe then if we put Beerus in the Marvel universe he is a high herald, low sky father based on feats. I don't see how he beats guys like Odin, Zeus, Darkseid or Thanos with the stones?

Goku hasn't really shown amazing speed in running or flying, when he fights super fast alot of it is short distant instant transmission but he isn't travelling fast, it's just a loop hole to say he is really quick.

Jiren was able to keep up with him and amaze him with his speed and he has no such speed or transmission abilities, I think it is fair to say The Flash is quicker than Goku.
 
D3THRONED said:
I think goku can breathe in space, he fought beerus in space (could be wrong). ill link the video gimme a second homie. Could be just the atmosphere area, who knows.

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I believe the explanation was he was still in earths atmosphere.

Honestly Toei are so inconsistent with their powerscaling and abilities it is hard to even have these debates, on one breathe Goku is now a God and basically unstoppable but then he will lose to someone at SSJ2 level or below and like how his power up or attack is so powerful it will destroy a planet or rip the fabric of time but yet they will have Mr. Satan or a camera crew recording like 30 feet away, it's always just been like Eh?

When Goku fought Frieza, Frieza said when Namek gets blown up he will win because Goku will die from no oxygen, there have been other stuff that points to them not being able to breathe in space aswell.

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90 50 said:
A god of destruction has no problem destroying universes, it’s what they do. Given that he is the most powerful non angel/god being in the universe, if they are in the same universe he has to by default be more powerful than thanos that’s just a given

What makes you think flash is faster than goku? They move so fast even other Dbz fighters can’t see them

When flash moves even run of the hill humans see him , although it’s just a flash, they still see him.
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Yeah the flash moves FASTER than the speed of light. There is no dbz character on his level.
 
Considering Goku hasn’t won a single fight in DBS, yes he can be beaten.

He lost to Beerus.

He lost to Hit twice.

He lost to Goku Black/Zamasu.

And he lost to Jiren.
 
j123 said:
He goes blonde hair and blue eyes, and it grants him pre-USADA TRT Victor abilities
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Wasnt the blue eye blonde hair super strong, originated from this idea?
 
Death Battle's videos are good because they actually examine the powers and try to translate them between universes.

Superman beats him easily. Goku definitely doesn't fuck with god-tier heroes/villains.
 
skysolo said:
What does "Goku is god-tier martial artist, plus a literal God(Super Saiyan God) PLUS Ultra Instinct" mean?

What context does this have outside of the Dragon Ball universe? How can this be quantified for someone with no knowledge of Dragon Ball.
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It means Goku can stand toe to toe with his universe’s literal God of Destruction, a being that can destroy entire galaxies on a whim.
 
Hidden_Hand said:
I'll answer for the Comic Book and Anime fans.

First off, it's Goku.

This also doesn't have a simple yes/no answer because DragonBall and Marvel/DC cannot be compared because they have completely different ideas on what makes a 'superhero'

Dragon Ball (Z, GT, Super) is at the heart a martial arts anime, that is what it revolves around, elite fighters going one on one using speed, strength, energy, timing etc.

Marvel/DC is a whatever comes into your head without limitations comic, so you have characters that can literally warp reality and change time lines.

For instance, Goku with his mastered Ultra Instinct is nigh unbeatable and godly powerful, thus far the greatest transformation we have seen in Dragon Ball, however this little boy..

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Could literally alter Gokus universe and make him a bottle of ketchup and use Goku ketchup on his chips, doing all of this within a moments thought. It doesn't matter how strong Goku gets he cannot do anything.

In many breakdowns it has generally been agreed Goku and other Z fighters like Vegeta go to about the High Father level in Marvel/DC which is taking on guys such as Odin, Thors father, Darkseid etc.

When you start to get onto Celestial and higher you are dealing with beings that don't physically fight like Goku wants to, they can alter reality, change time, alter molecules etc.

Compare it to how the angels are perceived in DBS, the characters like Goku, Vegeta, Jiren, Hit etc. no matter how amazing and powerful know they cannot even imagine landing a punch or hurting an angel it isn't even conceivable.

Characters like The Living Tribunal, The Spectre etc. Well it wouldn't even be a fight again, Goku would have no choice to bow, even Goku fused with Jiren with Ultra Instinct would be nothing but a rain drop in the ocean to The Living Tribunals power.

Goku would take out Thanos WITHOUT the stones, with them and Thanos can alter time and reality he wouldn't need to fight to win only Celestial and higher can intervene.
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Who wins between the Berserk guy and Goku?
And what about Tiger Man vs Ranma 1/2?
 
sgt jumpy said:
It means Goku can stand toe to toe with his universe’s literal God of Destruction, a being that can destroy entire galaxies on a whim.
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So can Vegeta, Goku, and Gohan.

In context, Beerus could erase Goku by thinking it.

What context does this have outside of the Dragon Ball universe?
 
Isn't Bane nearly as strong as The Hulk? bane beats Goku
 
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