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source?No one that isn't very mentally challenged is getting any use out of those lists.
what? can you be less vague?If you were using common sense, you wouldn't be at the bar in the first place. That goes double for women.
We're talking about intentionally wrecking your own judgement while surrounding yourself with strangers who are doing the same to their judgement. It's a stupid thing to do and it requires a suspension of common sense.
This isn't about common sense.
no, the first time you touch her ass without her consent it's harassment already. ignorance of the law does not mean you can break it.Nope.
I'm saying that human sexuality and courtship are not easily put into neatly labelled boxes. they're incredibly subjective, and filled with blind spots and blurred lines of acceptable behaviour.
I'm saying that only an idiotic and sheltered prude says "you touched a girl's ass in a bar? That's harassment!"
I'm saying that the very idea of ill-defined non-verbal consent is dangerously blurry.
I'm saying that if a person's ass is touched in a social and casual setting, its really not a big deal and if you don't like it, you can speak up and say so. Further ass-touching is probably harassment but even then, the offense that is warranted is dependent on too many variables for umbrella judgements to be made.
I guess I am also saying that the world is not made of cotton wool.
let's set the bar REALLY low for you. a girl is talking to her friends at the bar. she's standing with her back to you. do you really need to "check" if she wants her ass grabbed by you?
if you have a problem with this notion, that's entirely your fault. i brought up the humping and peeing as a hyperbole, of course. I just wanted to show you how you can know NOT to do certain things even when there's "many variables" involved.
you could also be really informed on how to behave yourself at work and in bars by reading up on guidelines, laws and awareness campaigns. get informed, stop being willfully confused about this because you have an agenda to push.
you don't see the difference between groping a stranger at the bar, and holding your partner's hand?Would you only hold your wife's hand if she presented you with written permission first?
doing a non-sexual activity with your significant other vs sexually touching women at the bar?
like, i've been beyond cordial to you even though you basically insulted me every second post but it's getting hard to take you seriously when you say shit like this.