Social Black Panther (War Room Discussion)

[jamel]

Thats a filthy bitch... But gotdamn, her titties make me forget all about her poor hygiene.

 

[irish_thug]

Well, Spawn was essentially Batman and Superman at the time it was released.

Not even close to true. Yes Spawn was popular. But comparing it to Batman and Superman is ridiculous. Image was an upstart company, the character had only been around for 5 years at the time, compared with decades for DC`s top 2.

 

[HereticBD]

Not even close to true. Yes Spawn was popular. But comparing it to Batman and Superman is ridiculous. Image was an upstart company, the character had only been around for 5 years at the time, compared with decades for DC`s top 2.

Perhaps a little hyperbolic on my part, but Spawn was quite the pop culture phenomenon at the time.

 

[Ice That Jaw]

I didn't watch it, and have no plans to either, because it doesn't look like something I like. Which is the case of dam near most of the superhero movies.

A lot of people were effusive with praise for Logan, but I thought it was decent, rather than the fantastic movie everyone was making it out to be. Don't see what's so great about Captain America, Thor and Deadpool either. And IronMan looks so cliched and corny.

Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and X-Men origins: Wolverine are the superhero movies I liked.

I enjoyed the first 2 wolverine films but Logan was too dark for me. I love dark films but it just felt out of place with Wolverine. The director, James Mangold, I have mad respect for though. He wrote and directed Copland so I feel shitty criticizing him.

 

[ultramanhyata]

When you have to find pride in a fantasy film, there's something off about your continent.

At least Black Panther was originally created as an African character. Unlike the upcoming Spider-Man movie with a Latino Peter Parker. Or the Hamilton musical reimagining the founding fathers as people of color.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Almost like Passion Of The Christ aint it??!!

I didn't watch that, and also did not get the hype surrounding it.
Could you elaborate on the comparison?

 

[jamel]

I can. Read the mayberry thread, I've had high hopes for this movie since before it was even officially announced. There are conservative white males out there that actually want to see positive strong black role models. Even if they happen to be comic book characters. I want this movie to do amazing. I want great acting roles for everyone involved in this movie.

Same here.

Cause lord knows I'm tired of dumb n----- shit being the only source of entertainment in my culture.

My people need to strive to do better and if a fucking comicbook movie is what jumpstarts change within them than so be it.

I know this movie aint gon be a cure all for all the things that negatively imapct my community but it is a damn good start.


Obama couldnt get it done, hell, maybe T'Challa can?

Worth a shot. Shit.

 

[DragRacer]

It’s got zero to do with black folks happy.
It’s the obnoxiously fake affection for the movie from odious white liberals that rustle the masses.
Probably because a lot of us would like to just not hear the hollow cheerleading and enjoy the fucking movie, because it appears to be another pretty good Marvel flick.
It’s a little hard to get exited for when all the wrong people are worked up, and honestly most of them aren’t black.

See?

Now this is a well put together response.


The rest of yall are just playing devil advocate or are just taking a contrarian stance for the fuck of it.

Now I get why you would take issue, and partly agree.

But the rest of these mother fuckers are just angry cause black folks are happy. And it is plain to see.

I respect your opinion.

 

[jamel]

I didn't watch that, and also did not get the hype surrounding it.
Could you elaborate on the comparison?

Some torture porn flick that was lawded and hated by all types of people. Mostly lawded... Mostly torture porn.

 

[cincymma79]

I'm sure that Africans get tired of having their countries, their culture, their continent and themselves constantly being represented as unintelligent and backwards in major motion pictures.

People who get to see a full panoply of themselves on screen probably never considered how wearisome it might be to never see an inspiring representation of themselves.

White people take pride in plenty of fantasy films, in fact some of them get up in arms whenever faced with the possibility of no longer being the fictional center of some fictional universe. Movies, books etc. have always been points of pride for people, white, black, Asian, etc.

Yes the rockie shit is weird too

 

[irish_thug]

Perhaps a little hyperbolic on my part, but Spawn was quite the pop culture phenomenon at the time.

I can agree with that.

 

[irish_thug]

I know this movie aint gon be a cure all for all the things that negatively imapct my community but it is a damn good start.

It sure as hell isn't going to hurt.

 

[Strychnine]

White people "have to find pride" in a 74 year-old man-child with the sensitivity of a pre-pubescent school girl, the temperament of a newborn, and the intellect of a toddler. Also, shitty country music.

Spoiler

Seriously, after white identity in North America culminated in the electing of the single most incompetent and embarrassing figure in American political history, you all can shut the fuck up about black people being happy to finally feel represented in popular culture instead of being portrayed as criminals, derelicts, and lust-crazed tropes.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

There's nothing wrong with Black Panther. The problem is this. Hype encourages mediocrity

Hostiles, Shape of Water, etc. passed under the radar because Hollyweird is pushing Black Panther down people's throats.

Tell me something. There have been movies in the past, high budget movies starring a black cast or whose main characters were black.

The Book of Eli was directed by two black directors, starring a black dude who a lot of people are familiar with (Denzel Washington).

Not one fart came out when it was released in theaters. No one emptied their heart out. Days went by as usual

This movie comes out and everyone is down at their knees lauding it as it's up there with Shawshank's redemption. If you take into account the social context at the moment (#metoo and all that crap) you'll understand why. Basically this movie is rated for its political effect not for its cinematographic value and only encourages more crap from Hollywood. Why bother with making Hostiles and Shape of Water, when you can just stir shit by masking politics with cinema.

Great post..
This is my fear for black panther. .

I'm just hoping the hype doesn't set such unrealistic expectations and as you said mediocrity ....

 

[TheLastSpartan]

The insecurity abounds in this thread. Plain as day...lol.

Not to discount the valid cinematic criticisms of course but it is amusing to read posts pretending to be objectively critical when the motive/reasoning behind said posts are as clear as a freshly squeegee'd windowpane.

 

[ultramanhyata]

I'm not trolling at all. I see black people on my facebook and they wear African stuff to Black Panther and I'm asking why.

Black Panther movies might become the new Kwanzaa.

 

[Steve-French]

Black people like white people have been playing villains and heroes in film for quite some time now. I don't understand why people are still whining that black people are misrepresented in modern cinema, because they're not.

 

[jamel]

Black people like white people have been playing villains and heroes in film for quite some time now. I don't understand why people are still whining that black people are misrepresented in modern cinema, because they're not.

Because we are not a monolith.

We are not all from the hood, some of us grew up in the suburbs... What do we have represent us? Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Family Matters, The Cosby Show and Black-ish.

Now compare that to the hood booger shows... See the difference?

Waaaay too many hood booger shows and movies.

 

[Ruprecht]

Not really a fan of comic books or their movie adaptations. There's quite a lot of African science fiction that could be adapted to film that I'd check out though.
Quite a lot written by Africans even.

 

[Gregolian]

Now compare that to the hood booger shows... See the difference?

Waaaay too many hood booger shows and movies.

Not trying to be accusatory and I fully intend on seeing Black Panther once the hype dies down cause it looks like it'll be a good popcorn flick, but... I hope you're not saying a show like The Wire, movie like Training Day/Street Kings should have a pure 50/50 split on the junkie/down trodden that are shown in that show/movies (between white and black just for the sake of argument).

Like, in Training Day yeah, Denzel is a fucking asshole, we see Latino/black gang neighborhoods. But of the cops we see... wasn't Denzel the only crooked one that was black?

I frankly don't give two shits, a good movie is a good movie. What pisses me off more is if a known character is changed just for the sake of being 'PC' so to speak.

Like, I get Heimdal is a white dude (it's a norse God) but Idris Elba kills that role imo. Valkyrie though? My bitching about who played that has NOTHING to do with skin color... she's too fucking short IMO. Valkyrie's are supposed to be angelic warrior that choose the slain soldiers of a battlefield to take to Odin's army. How many old days warriors do you see that are under like 5'5"?