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It's spelt yoghurt you *queer
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It's spelt yoghurt you *queer
Eating a burnt steak at outback isn’t spending some cash on steak. Sorry bro but you don’t really know what you are talking about.Pizza
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I've always thought steak was the most overrated food. I like it, but I don't see the big deal. I've had some nice cuts and even dropped some cash at a few fancy restaurants and I guess I just have white trash taste buds because I would take a burger over a steak any day.
I also hate how people get all snobby if somebody wants a well done steak and think that eating raw meat some how makes you cool. I like my steak medium, raw meat (besides fish) wierds me out. I could give a shit less if somebody wants burn their steak or eat it raw and put ketchup on it.
You were doing a good job of pointing out they were trolling you in this thread as your prior posts were perfectly appropriate for this thread and you did not spam any veganism stuff but then you got baited into it.1) There is no such thing as ethically killed animals, that is a name we made up to make ourselves feel better about what we do. You are either killed or kept alive, it is as simple as that. At least embrace your meat eating habits instead of lying to yourself. If someone said they were going to kill me I would be absolutely devastated knowing that I'm leaving behind my family. I wouldn't be thinking of how I was going to die, it is wrong simply for the fact that my life has been chosen to end prematurely. But again, this really only applies to people who eat meat for satisfaction rather than people in areas where survival depends upon hunting.
2) Where do you get the number 10% from? If you list a statistic like that without a proper source there really is no point in bringing that up.
3) Even if it were true that oils are a bigger issue than factory farming (which is bogus) it doesn't change the fact that your diet still requires more oil than mine does. Plenty of vegans don't even use oil and I use it seldom.
4) How are vegans extremists? I cut a whopping 4 animals from my diet: chickens, cows pigs and fish. Wow such an extremist, right? Just because you don't like my lifestyle doesn't make me an extremist. I don't even agree with most forms of vegan activism. It usually just makes people double down with their meat eating
1) There is no such thing as ethically killed animals, that is a name we made up to make ourselves feel better about what we do. You are either killed or kept alive, it is as simple as that. At least embrace your meat eating habits instead of lying to yourself. If someone said they were going to kill me I would be absolutely devastated knowing that I'm leaving behind my family. I wouldn't be thinking of how I was going to die, it is wrong simply for the fact that my life has been chosen to end prematurely. But again, this really only applies to people who eat meat for satisfaction rather than people in areas where survival depends upon hunting.
2) Where do you get the number 10% from? If you list a statistic like that without a proper source there really is no point in bringing that up.
3) Even if it were true that oils are a bigger issue than factory farming (which is bogus) it doesn't change the fact that your diet still requires more oil than mine does. Plenty of vegans don't even use oil and I use it seldom.
4) How are vegans extremists? I cut a whopping 4 animals from my diet: chickens, cows pigs and fish. Wow such an extremist, right? Just because you don't like my lifestyle doesn't make me an extremist. I don't even agree with most forms of vegan activism. It usually just makes people double down with their meat eating
How is it not a morality issue? People no longer eat to survive, they eat for taste. You can live perfectly happy as a vegan and cause minimal damage to wildlife. I don't blame some humans for eating meat because they're truly in a situation where they need what is around them but you aren't in their situation. You're living comfortably in a 1st world country where you're prioritizing taste buds more than anything else. You make the argument that we are apex predators because we rule this planet. Why does being on top give us the right to destroy whatever is in front of us? We have 7.5 billion people on a planet that has finite resources. Animal agriculture takes up a lot of land and that land could be used to grow more food for starving humans rather than cows. Maybe a long time ago it wasn't a morality issue but things have changed. And lol at life feeds on life. Yeah becAuse factory farming is so natural
I wouldn’t argue about all the delicious variety you get from a pig, but beef is hardly one-note. Forgetting all the different cuts of steak you’ve got several roasting joints, brisket, shin, cheek, oxtail - all different and all delicious.I just think the pig is more versatile and you get much different cuts than you do with beef.
Red meat is one note for he most part. Pig is so different across the animal
Personally I love a Veal Chop more than steak as well. But a ribeye is delicious.
lol a cow is not wildlife. It's only purpose on this planet is to get eaten by people.
lol a cow is not wildlife. It's only purpose on this planet is to get eaten by people.
You are not seeing the bigger picture. People want grass fed cows. Do you know how much space that takes up? How do you think we get that space? By cutting down forests. What do you think lives in those forests? Wildlife.
You were doing a good job of pointing out they were trolling you in this thread as your prior posts were perfectly appropriate for this thread and you did not spam any veganism stuff but then you got baited into it.
Anyway... when people refer to 'ethics' in farming and raising 'feed' animals they are referring to ones who are raised in a way that gives them a reasonably comfortable life with minimal stress and a death that has minimal stress and no gratuitous pain or suffering at death. That is ethical and often a better life and death than the animals would have in the wild.
You may have your own weird definition of ethics in this situation but understand that we don't have to accept it.
Food wise, I can't really think of anything much better than a filet mignon.
Come at me vegans.
Most of the farmland in America was never forest. Never heard of the Great Plain?
1. Vegans complain about factory farming and emissions, when people have alternatives they still say no one should eat meat and meat is murder. They only look at it from an emotional, humanistic point of view. The way you described yourself getting killed exemplifies that. There completely is ethical farming and hunting, and it is different from factory farming.
2. Source is from here
Meat: A Benign Extravagance
3. No one said oils were a bigger issue.
4. Extremist: factory farming is wrong therefore no one should eat meat. That's like saying my radiator isn't working, let's just throw out the whole car. How about we start with changing the way we farm animals in the first place?
Have you ever thought how this world would actually look if everyone was vegan? It's not even a realistic alternative to factory farming. It's the wrong conversation to bring up