Name Someone From "The Other Side" Whom You Admire

You don't HAVE to be on a side.
 
Gregolian said:
Is "no politician or activist" an acceptable answer?
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Please don't take this as an attack. Please, please don't, because that really isn't my intention. I had/have a bit of an inkling that answers like this would/will be common in this thread, and frankly, it's part of the reason why I tend to avoid the WR.

The inability to find anything of value in an ideological opponent reveals, IMO, either dogmatism or a lack of intellectual curiosity, neither of which I can abide.

Ugh, I said I wasn't going to go all Hegelian ITT, but you've made a liar of me, lol. Surely if a goddamn commie like me can find value in the works of a borderline fascist like Mishima, anyone can find value in an ideological opponent:p
 
panamaican said:
1) My ideology is simple.

Government should be efficient in how it manages our money. It should spend money in a fashion that maximizes the ROI for those things I consider important to our ability to remain the premier nation in the world. Government has a responsibility to make sure those things that allow it's citizens to most effectively compete on the global stage are developing in the most effective and efficient way possible - this means education, health, military, food, shelter in no particular order.

I am socially liberal, "liberal" in the sense that government should stay out of society's way when it comes to shaping what is/isn't socially acceptable. The less regulation and interference in our private lives the better.

Fiscally, a balanced budget should always be our goal. Not always achievable but it should be an overarching principle for decision making.

2-3) I can't name anyone diametrically opposed to my position because I think elements of it are attractive across the entire population.

4) Read my posts. Seriously though, read everything across all ideological spectrums. Read history - personally, Rome is insightful but so is the era of democratic revolution in Europe and the Americas in the 19th Century. Books on African colonialism and Asian communist regimes. Read religious texts because morality is important, I'm very slowly working through the Bhagavad Gita. They aren't the only source of moral teachings but where they overlap is probably closest to some sense of a universal truth.

Seriously, read everything...even shitty posters.
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Wow that's weird. I read the body of your post and thought, "this is extremely close to my beliefs". Then I scrolled up and saw it was you and I don't think I've ever agreed with you on anything in other threads.
 
kahiljabroni said:
Wow that's weird. I read the body of your post and thought, "this is extremely close to my beliefs". Then I scrolled up and saw it was you and I don't think I've ever agreed with you on anything in other threads.
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We could have the same philosophy and interpret the same facts differently for different policy directions.
 
alan dershowitz. and wayyy before Trump. I have had a measure of admiration for Dershy for going on 30 years. Mainly because of his clear-headed stance on Israel.
 
I'm left wing and a Communist but Milton Friedman was intelligent and could articulate his point of view.

Oddly enough I don't think the Right wing really believes his ideas anymore. That goes for the leadership like Paul Ryan and the average Trump voter. The right wing leadership no longer care if markets work well or not, and the base never really cared or understood market economics/ Chicago school.
 
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Daverisimo said:
Please don't take this as an attack. Please, please don't, because that really isn't my intention. I had/have a bit of an inkling that answers like this would/will be common in this thread, and frankly, it's part of the reason why I tend to avoid the WR.

The inability to find anything of value in an ideological opponent reveals, IMO, either dogmatism or a lack of intellectual curiosity, neither of which I can abide.

Ugh, I said I wasn't going to go all Hegelian ITT, but you've made a liar of me, lol. Surely if a goddamn commie like me can find value in the works of a borderline fascist like Mishima, anyone can find value in an ideological opponent:p
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I think that is the real problem we have. A lot of people aren't really interested in solving problems and finding compromise.
 
Not really a person but I have to give some respect to the some of the more traditional socialists and syndicalists in Sweden. Some of them have of recently been very vocal about rejecting the neo-left and its focus on identity politics, while at the same time fully ignoring the poor and working class just because they have the wrong skin color.

They want to shift the focus back on the class struggle against the evil capitalists, not identity politics.

I strongly disagree with their overall agenda but I do think they are spot on when it comes to the neo-left's hypocrisy.
 
ultramanhyata said:
Compared to Donny Dotard, Carter was all four of the guys on Mount Rushmore rolled into one.
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Yeah double didgit inflation and gas lines way worse tHan tweeting something you don’t like. Really no comparison. Tweets hurt me deep.
 
cincymma79 said:
Yeah double didgit inflation and gas lines way worse tHan tweeting something you don’t like. Really no comparison. Tweets hurt me deep.
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It's simply the difference between inheriting a strong economy and inheriting a recession.

It's like saying Carter was clearly superior because during his administration the US wasn't fighting wars in the ME as they are under Trump.

On the question of professional competency and foreign and domestic policy comprehension, only his cult members would give Trump the nod over Carter.
 
ultramanhyata said:
It's simply the difference between inheriting a strong economy and inheriting a recession.

It's like saying Carter was clearly superior because during his administration the US wasn't fighting wars in the ME as they are under Trump.

On the question of professional competency and foreign and domestic policy comprehension, only his cult members would give Trump the nod over Carter.
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Cater is the worst president we’ve ever had. There’s a reason he couldn’t even carry his home state in reelection. I don’t even think his wife voted for him.
 
I'm a liberal and I admire John Kasich, John McCain and any other Republican who puts country over party.
 
cincymma79 said:
Cater is the worst president we’ve ever had. There’s a reason he couldn’t even carry his home state in reelection. I don’t even think his wife voted for him.
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That honor goes to our current president... Groper in chief
 
Peter Hitchens, I do agree on some issues he brings up. But he is a Eurosceptic while I am pro EU.
But I can't fault him for his opinion he makes clear, reasonable arguments I simply disagree with.
But I can see why he holds those views.
 
zebby23 said:
That honor goes to our current president... Groper in chief
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Ok. Subjective I guess. I’d think leaving a bunch of students hostage for a year, gas lines, and double digit inflation would be worse than anything thrown out in he last 100 years except maybe putting Japanese in camps
 
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